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The Epi-pen idea is not a bad one. I have no idea what Rx might be effective but if a quick injection could halt the runaway cytokine storm syndrome for a few days to allow a patient's innate immune system to focus on the virus, it might greatly improve outcomes.

https://www.sinobiological.com/resource/cytokines/cytokine-storm

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per Cytokine Storm link ^ -
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In 2003, researchers at Imperial College London tested a drug that interferes with a “survival signal” that keeps activated T-cells working at the site of inflammation during influenza infection in mice. The signal, another cytokine designated OX40, essentially disables the brakes on the T-cell response. By blocking the OX40 receptor on T-cells, researchers were able protect mice from the serious symptoms of virulent flu (paper in J. of Experimental Medicine and reported in New Scientist). The drug, to be made by a company called Xenova Research, was supposed to be in phase I clinical trial in 2004, but we have no further information of its status (additional information solicited for this entry).

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The Epi-pen idea is not a bad one. I have no idea what Rx might be effective but if a quick injection could halt the runaway cytokine storm syndrome for a few days to allow a patient's innate immune system to focus on the virus, it might greatly improve outcomes.

https://www.sinobiological.com/resource/cytokines/cytokine-storm
How would someone know when the right time was to provide the storm blocker?

For an allergic reaction, everything happens quickly.

For this virus, isn't the deal that you've potentially got it for 2 weeks before you show symptoms? So, do you need to give it as soon as you've been infected or do you need to give it when you show symptoms, or do you need to give it the day before you show symptoms, or does it come at some later date a week down the road after you've started showing symptoms?
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How would someone know when the right time was to provide the storm blocker?

For an allergic reaction, everything happens quickly.

For this virus, isn't the deal that you've potentially got it for 2 weeks before you show symptoms? So, do you need to give it as soon as you've been infected or do you need to give it when you show symptoms, or do you need to give it the day before you show symptoms, or does it come at some later date a week down the road after you've started showing symptoms?
Attending physicians say that they can "watch it happen very quickly" so they would be the best judge. This is not someone walking around a grocery store but rather a patient who is already seriously ill and hospitalized. Currently they have no clear treatment for this and it is similar to a violent allergic reaction where our own immune system rages out of control and takes us out in the process.

I think the Epi-pen idea with the right Rx could be useful in a hospital situation, not for the general public to carry around just in case.
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Sounds like a patch might work as a vaccine.

COVID-19 Candidate Vaccine Shows Promise in Mouse Study | Medicine | Sci-News.com

A team of researchers at the University of Pittsburgh and Erasmus Medical Center Rotterdam has developed a potential vaccine against SARS-CoV-2, a novel coronavirus that causes the COVID-19 disease. When tested in mice, the vaccine produced antibodies specific to SARS-CoV-2 at quantities thought to be sufficient for neutralizing the virus.
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r/n every major Pharm. Co. is working on a vaccine 24 hrs a day...

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