Seems like it works like a lot of rules work. The idea is that most people follow, so you get 80% compliance, which is better than 0%. Speed limits work similarly, there are seldom any cops, especially on local roads, but most drivers observe the limit or close.

This lockdown has shuttered “non essential” businesses (most businesses are non essential) for an indeterminate period of time. These businesses are losing money at an unsustainable rate, and many will close their doors forever. Their employees are out of jobs right now, and have a very good chance of never being able to go back to their old jobs. The longer this lockdown (yes, lockdown) continues, the more dire life becomes for many millions of people here in the US. The long term consequences of this lockdown will be catastrophic for millions. This is what people fear as each day progresses to the next while our Governors decide “yea we’ll add ANOTHER month to the lockdown”.

For most, unless or until someone comes knocking on their door or pulls them over, etc., laws are merely theoretical.

So it’s no troubling at all if one day orders are decreed that make driving to the beach to sit in your car and watch the sunset, or roaming the streets on your motorcycle, are imprisonable offenses.

Or if those orders are indefinite.

Or if they aren’t even passed by the legislature or through any legislative process.

Or if there isn’t the manpower for strong enforcement, so your breaking the law isn’t statistically likely to get you caught.

Well, LAPD's turning off water and electricity for non-compliance. Is that even legal ?

But they do want you caught.
NY, and I believe LA, have set up snitch lines so citizens can call the government and rat out fellow citizens who are disobeying the orders.

Be a good citizen. We’re all the eyes and ears of the government.

“You know the old expression about snitches, well in this case snitches get rewards, We want to thank you for turning folks in and making sure we are all safe.”
Los Ángeles Mayor Garcetti

Why wound driving to the beach to watch the sunset be imprisonsble? Seems like a prefect blend of living life and social distancing...

Because the government says so.

Shaun is going to report that alt-right remark -daring to question orders- to the high command.

I’m sure things like beach closures have nothing whatsoever to do with inflicting pain and discomfort on people in an election year to achieve a desired outcome for a particular party either... 🙄 C’mon - most of you guys are smart enough to know what’s going on even if you don’t want to admit it. This is no longer about public health or safety.

It reminds me of years ago when I was in CA - there was a budget shortage and the administration (think it was under Gray Davis) was clamoring to have taxes raised. Naturally people weren’t too receptive to that so there was a shutdown of state services - deliberately targeted to maximize pain, inconvenience and discomfort (things like DMV hours, state parks, public assistance offices, etc.) NOT the most expensive ones - the ones specifically intended to inflict misery to the point where the electorate would cry “uncle” and vote in the new taxes. Guess what? It worked.

Think the same tactic (or a variation) isn’t being used here? Guess again. This is very much right out of their playbook.

Surfers are not allowed to surf.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1587704157.jpg

People are allowed to go out for exercise and a certain amount of recreation while maintaining social distancing and wearing masks, i.e. hiking, riding bicycles, walking, etc. All of the coffee shops in my neighborhood are open for take-out. Maybe they are technically serving food if you count croissants and muffins.

In essence it should not be a problem. However, when everyone gets the same idea and starts crowing a beach or similar then we are back to a risk of exposure. People just ain't gonna listen.

Tomorrow, I am going to my daughter's home on the beach to visit. We will be smart and wear masks and take other appropriate social distancing measures. But, it will not be business as usual.

Totally deserted beaches...for miles in each direction.

That describes NC's Outer Banks when I was a kid...

Paradise Lost....

You know there are some here who would call you a hypocrite.

And there are others out there who would have you arrested for visiting your daughter and violating the stay-at-home order.

I will be outside on the porch saying hello and dropping off PPE. I get to see my grandkids through a window. I have not heard that I am unable to do this.

That's not it. --people, in general, are very risk adverse right now.

The thing is, those States, counties and cities do NOT want to patrol parks and beaches.

Around here, where small lake-front walkways have park facilities, we have locked/closed restrooms and they have even pulled garbage bins.

The "public servants" are getting paid to stay home. Meanwhile, private garbage collectors keep on doing their jobs, thankfully.

Lots of the "public servants" are loving this situation. Getting paid for nothing, with pension and vacation accruing... minimal risk of losing their jobs. Well, unless the pitch-forks come out. Which is why they are staying pretty quiet about it all, but otherwise won't mind a bit if this continues.

Who here is taking the Lysol Challenge?

Definitely POST OF THE DAY. Hilarious

meh. seems a reach.

UV light is a disinfectant and so is Lysol, therefore Lysol is UV light? - meh. weak tea.

I will agree with this statement, however, here in NYC this is not the case. All our city workers are still collecting trash, operating trains and buses although I find this a problem. There have been many city workers who have fallen ill and died. All my life I saw the NYC employee to be very happy to work as little as possible. But, I am surprised to see how well they have been doing in this crisis.

BTW, I prefer bleach over Lysol whenever I ingest a disinfectant.:eek:

White poop?SmileWavy

A Clorox steam bath....will indeed kill the virus.

Heat, humidity & stupidity :D

Interesting. And our buses are still driving around. Ridiculously slowly as they have so few stops needed. We also have a ridiculously expensive light rail project that continues construction. Private construction is verboten. Anyway, weird to be building a virus focal transportation tube that lands at Microsoft... They are most all working remotely.

The company that makes Lysol and Dettol is urging customers not to consume its cleaning products after President Donald Trump suggested the possibility of injecting disinfectants to protect people from coronavirus.

Reckitt Benckiser (RBGLY), a British company, warned Friday that human consumption of disinfectant products is dangerous. It issued the statement following "recent speculation and social media activity."
"As a global leader in health and hygiene products, we must be clear that under no circumstance should our disinfectant products be administered into the human body (through injection, ingestion or any other route)," the company said in a statement.

RB said products should only be "used as intended and in line with usage guidelines.

"We have a responsibility in providing consumers with access to accurate, up-to-date information as advised by leading public health experts," the company said.

And Tide pods.

What happened to Darwin awards?

Shaun, I just made my first Clorox poop. It was a somewhat florescent green, mixed with a red liquid. ��

I only have a bio/biochem degree and am not a doctor but I don't think that's supposed to happen. Could be wrong.

And that's why some people would say you are a hypocrite. It looks as if you wish to ignore the part of the law that you inconveniently disagree with, and then feign ignorance in order to get away with it.

It is being financed by a family of brothers who want to destroy actual Conservativism and make a profit

also the De Voss family maybe

google is yo fren!

Ok

You're fine

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Ring of Fire is from bacon wrapped stuffed jalapenos, the green thing is something else. What did the poop look like with a Wood's lamp on it?

What does it do to the modeling if it was already in California in December?

They call them "patient zero." If'n you change what zero means, it must do something to the math.

Could we already be in the second wave? There was a respiratory thing that was going around last Fall. Is it possible that was the first wave, and we are rocking number two right now?

Dear Shaun,
I would like to pertect myself from the Democrat Rona viris.
I would like to, for I fear for my life. I think the left is sending the Rona bugs to get me. But I am confused. Do I smear it on my face, nose, eyeballs, and/or oral cavity? Do I stick it in my ears? Do I ingest it my mouth, or do a nasal drench, or do I administer it as an (excuse the language) anal enema like thing?
My hero Mr Trump has given me no guidance on how to protect myself. Should I use drain cleaner instead of Lysol? It sounds more Trumpian.

^^^ if you've ever scrolled through the comments sections after articles on foxnews.com, that's a pretty fair interpretation of the site's readership.

God I wish we could have a meritocracy.

You must not have been paying attention in your con law class. Strict scrutiny is one level of analysis used by the courts to determine the constitutionality of the actions of other governmental bodies. They may determine whether an act by the President, Congress, a national, state, or local administrative official, a state legislature, a local governing board, or a lower court is valid. It is a level of scrutiny applied to classifications that are alleged to violate constitutional rights to equal protection of the laws. Racial discrimination is just one of many constitutional issues where strict scrutiny is applied.

name another relevant here