I can't help you understand and I'm not going to talk in circles. Read my OP again. You're misinterpreting what the 60% represents. I'm done discussing this with you now.

Oh, please... This all started out of my post saying: We should all be VERY happy that this virus is not a huge threat to the majority of the population.

"huge threat" is my description, not yours. And is what you are taking issue with.

I think of "huge threat" as killing people. That wasn't good enough for your interpretation. So I accommodated and considered hospitalization as good enough - but still no where near 60%.

You can't articulate what you interpret "huge threat" to be so you get insulting. WTF man? You're better than that.

Speaking of masks, I don't generally trust memes, so I got a screen grab straight from the byd.care website.

My questions, WTH does it mean?

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I didn't get insulting. I'm just not going to argue my definition of huge threat vs yours. It's a waste of time. I've articulated what a huge threat is. If 60% of American adults have health issues that make this virus potentially deadly for them, that's a huge threat to a majority of people. Death doesn't define a "huge threat" and is honestly a terribly limited way of viewing what constitutes a huge threat. People potentially suffering lifelong issues related to this virus is a huge threat. People thought chicken pox didn't pose a threat until we learned that later on in life it could cause further complications.

It appears that the meme is accusing Costo of selling masks that it is not authorized to sell, but the specifics of the FDA mumbojumbo in section #12 would have to be looked up to see if that is a valid accusation.

We interrupt this regular scheduled programming for a cool girl video.


Earlier today, I discussed the k95 as snow chains, and a homemade mask as an all season -now behold- the Blizzak! the surgical mask.

If you had of asked me a year ago, if we were going to be discussing masks, I would have laughed, but here we are. so-

This is a surgical mask I use- a level III mask and I went and looked at the catalog and was surprised at the specs. What impresses me about it again and again is the fit. Get this- and this is simple- it has aluminium clasps on the top and bottom, so fit can be adjusted to a level (imho) better than most kn95's.

If I were stuck in a desert with ill fitting level one masks, and paranoid, I would simply mount one with the clasp on top, and overlay one with the clasp on the bottom to get a better fit. It isn't rocket science.


Tonight, after a long week, I saw my family (at my restaurant), came home, googled this, and was impressed at two things-

1. Look at the filtration for this surgical mask. Not bad. No legal apologies either.
2. I found this youtube video. It is in spanish. No worries- this girl is hot!
Effective and sexy. Enjoy folks!

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The hot girl with the colorful dust- didn't understand a word, but I can't get enough. Is the dust an effective particle size? Who cares! Music is catchy- and- She's hot! :D

p.s.- fast forward to 25 seconds in for the good stuff!

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/F8kGdfP3J8Y" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

And for farts too.

If you wear pants the fart stink stays inside.


LOL

LEAKYSEALS has pointed out a flaw in the sealing of typical surgical masks.

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With a name like LEAKYSEALS ... I think he provides a compelling observation. ;)

And with a name like leakyseals- it's gotta taste good. ;)
You know- that's a part of my point. Not that masks can leak, it's that the fixes are very easy. Not rocket science. If someone is really concerned about fit, just google the internet for "hacks" or something. I've had patients who (identifying this issue) are so proud of showing me how they have sewn in lower metal straps. Several patients mentioned it. The (first) patient who did it was 83 years old. Good on her. Her solution was more eloquent than a coworker who showed me a rubber band thingee some other dentist made.

This is not rocket science!

That is not a surgical mask. That is a ghetto, POS mask,

My quick guess is that during this pandemic, there is not enough time to get everything tested and approved, so the powers that be are letting companies sell untested masks during this time, but once things are better under control and time is more plentiful, they will have to get them tested before they can sell them.

This is what they have posted in hospitals to let the workers know that any mask will do.

I mean, clearly this virus spread by people shooting streams of spit on each other, and not tiny aerosolized particles that exit lungs of asymptomatic carriers.

Say YES to sarcasm.

F***book/AP "fact checker" politically charged piece vs real doctors

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. There’s no evidence that normal use of face masks can cause fungal or bacterial infections.

THE FACTS: A false post about wearing face masks has been circulating widely on Twitter after it was tweeted on June 19 by a congressional candidate in Florida.
...
This is part of The Associated Press’ ongoing effort to fact-check misinformation that is shared widely online, including work with Facebook to identify and reduce the circulation of false stories on the platform.

https://www.wellandgood.com/mouth-sores-from-wearing-masks/

The hot trash stench that gets trapped inside the mask can be a source of mouth sores like this one, says Maggie Kober, MD, a dermatologist with online dermatology service, Apostrophe. “The face mask traps warm moisture that is produced when we exhale,” says Dr. Kober. “For those with acne, this can lead to acne flares. For many others, this warm moist environment surrounding skin creates the perfect condition for naturally occurring yeast and bacteria to flourish and grow more abundant. This overgrowth of yeast and bacteria can produce angular cheilitis, the cracking and sores at the corner of the mouth.” And just when you thought 2020 was out of plot twists…how’s that for gross?

Tanya Kormeili, MD, board-certified dermatologist in Santa Monica, adds that one particular yeast—candida—loves the humid climate captured by your mask. And if your lips are constantly dry, the urge to compulsively lick them will only make the persistent yeast more at home. “If you are drooling extra under that hot mask, you may be at higher risk,” says Dr. Kormeili. “If moisture and saliva get trapped in the corners of your mouth, they become a breeding ground for Candida. As the yeast grows you become more red and inflamed and so the cycle continues.” Bleh.

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Does everyone still pee on each other in Oregon ?

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I just got this mask kit and its the most comfortable best fitting one that I have.

https://www.outdoorresearch.com/us/essential-face-mask-kit-283298

Yep. "Maskne" (Mask-acne) is a big thing. https://www.nytimes.com/article/maskne-acne.html

Well, unless the "Fact" checkers at FakeBlaugh say it's all lies, doncha know..

That "Filters greater than 95% of virus, bacteria, and particles " is a dubious marketing claim. But of course, Seattle is ground zero for the masked so who knows !

Well, OR makes really nice gear for skiing and other outdoor activities.

If you have to wear a mask effective or not it might as well be comfortable. Which is what I like about it and why I recommend it.