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CurtEgerer 08-21-2020 04:54 AM

>>>> Many locals were worried the huge crowds and lack of social distancing rules would lead to an unmanageable outbreak of COVID-19. <<<<

Well then I guess this will be another real world test case. If locals start collapsing in the streets from the ChiCom Virus within the next 4 days (August 11 +14 days), we'll know that 460,000+ maskless scofflaws descending on a small town is not advisable. But so far, so good - no unmanageable outbreak :D How is this possible from a gathering of 1/2 million people flaunting the government 'rules'? I suspect the 99.97% survival rate will not change :rolleyes:

speeder 08-21-2020 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 10993980)
I bet one hell of a lot more STDs were transmitted. Probably many other common viruses as well.

#keepthepanicalive

I highly doubt that. It's a crowd of middle aged and older couples who probably have sex once a month, if not less. It's not exactly the Coachella festival. That was a high-risk Covid crowd if I've ever seen one, I hope that somehow a lot of them did not get it.

As far as "proving it," our super competent government let that cat out of the bag months ago. There is no meaningful contact tracing in the U.S. Lastly, the survival rate is not 99% among people this age...maybe the Coachella crowd. :cool:

Jeff Higgins 08-21-2020 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 10994507)
I highly doubt that. It's a crowd of middle aged and older couples who probably have sex once a month, if not less. It's not exactly the Coachella festival. That was a high-risk Covid crowd if I've ever seen one, I hope that somehow a lot of them did not get it.

As far as "proving it," our super competent government let that cat out of the bag months ago. There is no meaningful contact tracing in the U.S. Lastly, the survival rate is not 99% among people this age...maybe the Coachella crowd. :cool:

Couples? Yes, there are some who go as couples, but the majority of men go there to get away from their wives. You know, because they only do it once a month... ;)

Eric 951 08-21-2020 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RSBob (Post 10994201)
If you take “one” literally, you are kidding yourself considering how virulent the virus is.

If college kids can transmit it so easily at parties, beards and bandannas aren’t going to do much when hanging at the bars. Hope I am wrong, but I wouldn’t bet money on it.

Perhaps those at Sturgis employed the most effective weapon against spreading the virus--BLM signs. According to the news reports I have read the past several months, not "one" of the riots or "protests" anywhere contributed to the spread of the virus, despite the lax usage of masks, and utter lack of social distancing.

911boost 08-21-2020 07:22 AM

Good one Eric.

I am still sad our very own Legion died by going out to eat.

Oh wait.

ckcarr 08-21-2020 07:54 AM

I live in a tourist town. We're packed. Arches National Park gets over 1,500,000 visitors every year. Canyonlands around 750,000. Makes Sturgis small potatoes. Can't stop the masses from coming. This town has had very few COVID-19 cases. Across the border in Colorado, the hysteria is ginned up constantly by the governor. Tell me this isn't political. And when I do hear "So & so tested positive for Corona", then you never hear anything else. I'm sure it's a real virus, but the measures seem excessive.

And back in March when everything was getting locked down in various states suddenly there were a bunch of out-of-staters here hiding and camping along the river and in the desert. Back then I thought they would cause problems, but nothing ever came of it.

RWebb 08-21-2020 10:59 AM

Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 during and after a college spring break trip (March 14–19) led to 64 cases, including 60 among 183 vacation travelers, one among 13 household contacts, and three among 35 community contacts. Prompt epidemiologic investigation, with effective contact tracing and cooperation between a university and a public health department, contributed to outbreak control.

- CDC

it's only "radio silence" if you don't pay attention

Jeff Higgins 08-21-2020 11:05 AM

64 new cases from tens of thousands crowding the beaches at Spring Break, and the hundreds of thousands exposed when they returned home is only a "massive outbreak" to those who desperately want to see one.

RWebb 08-21-2020 11:05 AM

it's the tip of an iceberg of unknown size

Jeff Higgins 08-21-2020 11:07 AM

Three months after the fact, we are very much aware of the size. It melted.

RWebb 08-21-2020 12:30 PM

no, without full & perfectly accurate contact tracing you cannot be aware of the 'size'

Jeff Higgins 08-21-2020 01:19 PM

There were no abnormally high "flare-ups" in incident rates in any location to which these kids returned. None. In spite of the shrill doom and gloom predictions from the media and certain politicians. This was all we heard about during Spring Break - the pending disasters when these kids returned home. We never heard another word after Spring Break, when none of those massive outbreaks materialized. All of the "Chicken Littles" just quietly slinked away, hoping no one would notice.

RWebb 08-21-2020 01:26 PM

why were there "no abnormally high "flare-ups" in incident rates" ???

I realize you want no restrictions on your freedom to infect

Jeff Higgins 08-21-2020 01:29 PM

Another stupid, baseless assumption on your part. Seems to be one of your fortes'.

I am very diligent about wearing my mask in public.

speeder 08-21-2020 01:57 PM

The radio in Minneapolis today says 15 confirmed new cases from people who attended Sturgis w one hospitalized. That number will almost certainly go up.

speeder 08-21-2020 01:57 PM

That’s just in Minnesota, BTW.

Jeff Higgins 08-21-2020 02:40 PM

15 new cases in a population of 5.64 million people. And yes, I would expect that to go up.

Minnesota has had a total of over 68,000 cases, with over 800 new reported today, with only 8 new deaths. So, let's try to keep these numbers in perspective. Even if the "Sturgis" numbers go up, substantially, like an order of magnitude or two substantially, they still do not represent any sort of a crisis by anyone's definition. Certainly not any kind of an "I told you so" moment, "proving" everyone's fears regarding Sturgis.

Baz 08-21-2020 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DonDavis (Post 10994249)
If this thread brings nothing else, we know that seat now has provenance.

LOL....good one, Don... :D

sugarwood 08-21-2020 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 10993980)
I bet one hell of a lot more STDs were transmitted.

Sturgis is a sausage fest, aint one getting no STD at Sturgis.
Bunch of obese grandpas and a few of their wives.
Better odds of STDs at a nursing home, since actual single females and less erectile issues

onewhippedpuppy 08-21-2020 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 10994930)
Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 during and after a college spring break trip (March 14–19) led to 64 cases, including 60 among 183 vacation travelers, one among 13 household contacts, and three among 35 community contacts. Prompt epidemiologic investigation, with effective contact tracing and cooperation between a university and a public health department, contributed to outbreak control.

- CDC

it's only "radio silence" if you don't pay attention

Who all weren’t sick and were totally surprised they tested positive. But good job saving the world!


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