What car if NOT a Porsche?

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by fintstone

A well done 3.0 build with carbs, cams and exhaust will do that without a huge amount of mods...and cost a lot less than you think (unless I am more out of touch than I realized). With a 3.0 and better gearing, it would drive/feel faster than a 3.2 Carrera.

The Bruce says the above mods with the 3.2SS pistons is the tits.

$20k would be easy to hit with all of the above and it won't be 50hp. It will feel like 50 with the gearing.

[fintstone]

Yep. But right now, he could just pull the engine and do the headstuds and reseal the leaks. Maybe a better cam grind while the engine is out. That would probably keep him a happy driver until he recovers from the tranny expense or until he tires of old cars with poor AC. He already has carbs...don't know about SSIs.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Gearing adds a lot, I have a '75 box with 7:31 in my 84. It's a very quick car. Ger can't do gearing. He's stuck with his $12K rebuilt box. I would not recommend he find a decent core.

[sugarwood]

Sorry to hear of the negative experience.

What has gone wrong with your car besides a 915 rebuild?
What did that cost you?

One vote to sell the SC.
You're going to be even more bitter after dropping $10k-$15k on a top end, or whatever it costs.
By that point, you may be too scared to drive it.

Better off selling as is for damage control.

Tons of $5k to $10k cars out there.
BMW Z3, Mustang GT, Miata, etc.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by fintstone

Yep. But right now, he could just pull the engine and do the headstuds and reseal the leaks. Maybe a better cam grind while the engine is out. That would probably keep him a happy driver until he recovers from the tranny expense or until he tires of old cars with poor AC. He already has carbs...don't know about SSIs.

Yes, Sir. Maybe a sport muffler?

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

Gearing adds a lot, I have a '75 box with 7:31 in my 84. It's a very quick car. Ger can't do gearing. He's stuck with his $12K rebuilt box. I would not recommend he find a decent core.

Yes. The 7:31 is the best seat of the pants performance item on my '74. With the 15" fuchs. It is a huge difference in fun per gallon.

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

Yes, Sir. Maybe a sport muffler?

...and he already found a good mechanic from Ohio.

[Geronimo]

At the very least I will fix the head studs next year. Sort a few other bits that I want sorted and drive it. I mean it already has SSI's, M&K 2in 1 out, MSG, and PMO's. I am sure I can drop 150-200 lbs off the car as well.

If it still leaves me wanting, I will stack up the costs of engine options against selling it and finding a nice Elise... Z3 BARF.

I have head that the 7.31 is even more fragile than a standard 915....

That voice in the back of my head keeps saying "your income does not support Porsche ownership".... and here I thought I was doing okay. lol

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by fintstone

...and he already found a good mechanic from Ohio.

Thanks fint.

If he takes the fan and shroud off and sends to Shaun, it's then way easier to get the engine out through the engine lid hole, right?

Can't wait to get my hands on that baby.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by Geronimo

At the very least I will fix the head studs next year. Sort a few other bits that I want sorted and drive it. I mean it already has SSI's, M&K 2in 1 out, MSG, and PMO's. I am sure I can drop 150-200 lbs off the car as well.

A set of mild cams would be sofa king sweet.

Edit: That's the Yuengling talking.

[Geronimo]

I may have a lift by next year.

The up side of carbs is I can get away with a much better cam, the down side is I'm limited by the CIS pistons.

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by Geronimo

At the very least I will fix the head studs next year. Sort a few other bits that I want sorted and drive it. I mean it already has SSI's, M&K 2in 1 out, MSG, and PMO's. I am sure I can drop 150-200 lbs off the car as well.

If it still leaves me wanting, I will stack up the costs of engine options against selling it and finding a nice Elise... Z3 BARF.

I have head that the 7.31 is even more fragile than a standard 915....

That voice in the back of my head keeps saying "your income does not support Porsche ownership".... and here I thought I was doing okay. lol

If your car already has carbs and SSI, you may just be wanting something that car will not give you. You might already have cams too.

Tranny/wheels is about all left on the table that is reasonably priced.

Nothing fragile about a 915 or the 7:31 version. They will take more HP than you will ever get out of that 3.0. You are talking to the wrong people.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by fintstone

If your car already has carbs and SSI, you may just be wanting something that car will not give you.

He's got some thinking to do.

I suffered anguish for years over buying a 911 with being an internal auditor and what statement that could be perceived as.

Had a pal that was a VP at my company. He said "Nobody gives a shiet" I just needed validation. Had one within two weeks. Along with a broken head stud. LOL. But a robust top end job was circa $3,000 in 1997 with your own labor.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

You really have to create a spreadsheet. 3.0 Option 1, 3.0 Option 2, 3.2 Option 3, 3.2 Option 4.

Options are basically:
1. Build to factory running spec, hp and cost, and add subjectives
2. Cams and all kinds of stuff like head porting, hp, cost, etc
3. Plug & play 3.2, etc.
4. 3.2 with exhaust and chip mods, etc.

you can add options as you see fit obviously.

You've got to run the numbers on these options and include time: your time, time to get the running, etc. Winter is coming soon so you don't have to get anything done immediately though I drive my car, even with headers and no heat, until first salt, usually in December.

You've gotten a lot of very good, and some bad, advice over the last 2 years. At this point, I think, if you don't make a plan and take advantage of Bob's very generous offer, the car will just languish. Who wants that?

There is something to be said for getting your 3.0 reassembled per Option 1 and just drive the car for a while even if it's not the Corvette you really want.

[fintstone]

Maybe add selling as an option to that list, but would probably need to fix the engine (per option 1) for a decent price that anyways.

As I have aged (and have more financial security), I have come to the conclusion that I should only buy if it is exactly what I want...or making it exactly what I want has an obvious and achievable path. Otherwise I stick with what I have. I do this with anything from furniture, cars homes, TVs, etc. If I were buying an air cooled car today, I would probably buy a turbo or a middie Carrera. Why? Because then I would enjoy it more and not spend time pursing something else. If I already had one, I would wait until I knew exactly what I wanted...and wait to change/upgrade until I knew exactly what I wanted and could afford it.

When I was a young man, I had various iterations of 1965 Mustang. I was pretty much limited to those I came across in my travels/small town. I always wanted something a bit different...engine, tranny, color, options. If I were to buy one now (and might). It would have to be exactly what I want...even if it required I pay a great premium (or nothing). It would have to be a convertible with exactly the right color paint, carpet, interior, top, etc. It would have to be the right engine, tranny, have factory air, wheels, GT options (Rallye pac, light bar, steering wheel, exhaust, etc.). Nothing less. I would rather just pass...as it would never be exactly what I want. My newest car now is my 2004 Cayenne TT that I bought used over a decade ago...because I searched until I got exactly the one I wanted...and had to fly cross country to pick it up. I simply cannot find another car that serves the same purpose that I like better.

Personally, I would fix this car (repair the studs) and drive it (like I stole it) so that I could be sure what I really want...then decide. Unless the engine is radically changed (modern 3.6)...it will never be a really fast car. Even the SS 3.2 only makes it fast in comparison to similar cars. For many, it will just never be enough. It takes a while to know what you want or to get something out of your system. If you already own an older 911, your investment will likely not go down over time if you keep it relatively stock and in good condition. That gives one plenty of time to play with it and make better decisions later without major depreciation.

[Geronimo]

Corvette... stop it!

Yea, I think looking at the number is a good plan. It will give me a base of information to weigh out those options.

Either way I will be sure to take Bob up on his offer and get the car as sorted as we can, and drive it as much as I can. In my 3rd year of ownership I might have driven it 10-12 times, zero this year.

[stevej37]

Originally Posted by Geronimo

Corvette... stop it!
In my 3rd year of ownership I might have driven it 10-12 times, zero this year.

Sell it...and move on to another choice.

[Geronimo]

Not sure i'm emotionally ready to take that big of a hit. lol

But it is still an option.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

3.2L engine for sale

[908/930]

Hey Geronimo,

You mention getting a lift, if considering a 4 post get the x wide, providing you have the side room, engine will fit out between the lift rails.