Masks - Review & Charcterization

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by ckissick

Just curious, what sort of scientist are you? I guess I'm the only other scientist here. (Geologist)

biology

what kind of geology?

the guy who started off all the 911 wt. data collection was a petrologist

[island911]

Originally Posted by dad911

For Island:
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Is that what you got out of the OP link?

The problem is, this virus -to use your pissy analogy- is more like a fart than a piss, but you go ahead and think whatever simpleton thing you want, just know that your jeans wont stop your stinky farts.

[ckissick]

Originally Posted by RWebb

biology

what kind of geology?

the guy who started off all the 911 wt. data collection was a petrologist

I am an engineering geologist. I work on construction projects, and study landslides and earthquake faults, etc.

Anyway, we geologists have a way of looking at empirical, approximate data and then making judgement calls, rather than relying on precise formulas, etc. Especially when there's so much uncertainty on a scientific topic. That's why I value some of the empirical raw data on the effectiveness of masks. There; we're back on topic.

[island911]

Just saw this.

Originally Posted by URY914

Did I touch a nerve?

Not even close. Maybe try refuting a point next time. d'ya think you can do that?

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by URY914

island thinks he's an expert in face masks.

He thinks he's an expert on everything.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by ckissick

The article is very scientific and all, but doesn't the set of graphs in the attached article shed some doubt on the conclusion that masks are effective? Should we rely on equations and theory, or raw data?

https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/#jp-carousel-38978

No article at the link, just a graph of something.
No, we should not rely on raw data. Data has to be reported in context, and it's collection methods and limits of accuracy need to be included. They don't call it "raw" for nothing.

[island911]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

He thinks he's an expert on everything.

You are an expert on what? sour grapes?

Like my sig says I put in my 2¢ worth. Just like everyone else here.

[URY914]

island is an expert in:

- telling everyone else that they are wrong.
- responding to every thread about masks.
- Lance Armstrong
- being a troll
- insulting others

[pksystems]

[island911]

Exactly ^

Originally Posted by URY914

island is an expert in:

- telling everyone else that they are wrong.
- responding to every thread about masks.
- Lance Armstrong
- being a troll
- insulting others

Wow that's a lot of butt-hurt.

We all come here to share information.

What exactly to you add to this world?

Seems that all you share is your hate.

[URY914]

You know island I wrote a pretty sharp response to you and posted it. But after a few minutes I went back and deleted it. You're not changing no matter what me or anyone else says.

I'm not going to engage.

[island911]

Originally Posted by URY914

You know island I wrote a pretty sharp response to you and posted it. But after a few minutes I went back and deleted it. You're not changing no matter what me or anyone else says.

I'm not going to engage.

You just did.

And thanks? for letting us know you said something sharp. Real useful.

[URY914]

Here I was trying to be civil and yet you come back with an insult.
Just shows who you really are.
Troll on....

[island911]

Originally Posted by URY914

Here I was trying to be civil and yet you come back with an insult.
Just shows who you really are.
Troll on....

Let's see... U say: "You're not changing no matter what me or anyone else says."
and then;
"Here I was trying to be civil"

So then a "civil" insult hurled my way?

IOW, if that is you trying to be civil... Try harder. And remember, you are the one who saw an opportunity to pile on with your bullet-point list of insults.

But at least you had zero retort to my on-topic points.

[Mahler9th]

I skimmed this article and found it a bit interesting:

https://sfist.com/2020/11/24/history-reminder-the-1918-flu-came-roaring-back-in-january-in-san-francisco/

[Mahler9th]

Here is the article that preceded the one at the link I provided above:

https://sfist.com/2020/04/27/history-lesson-sf-had-an-anti-mask-league-during-the-1918-flu-pandemic-who-rallied-against-face-masks/

[black73]

Unignorable.

[RWebb]

There are also several books detailing the use or non-use of masks during historical pandemics. If you read them, note that spread of different viruses or bacteria can differ widely. Covid19 isn't weaponized anthrax, but it isn't norovirus either.

Expect more books in the future...

[Eric Coffey]

Originally Posted by Mahler9th

I skimmed this article and found it a bit interesting:

https://sfist.com/2020/11/24/history-reminder-the-1918-flu-came-roaring-back-in-january-in-san-francisco/

Those articles are garbage.

The 1918 flu did not come "roaring back because people stopped wearing masks".

Mr. Barmann needs to brush up on his history...

[RWebb]

Here Eric - do some reading

https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/annurev.med.51.1.407