F1 2021 thread

[Noah930]

I think Russell was appropriately aggressive. He had a good run on Bottas, with DRS and all. Bottas moved a little to the right and in the end gave Russell enough room. But Russell was afraid Bottas would come over too far and juked to the right, thereby putting his right-side tires on the wet grass. Then disaster.

[rfuerst911sc]

To be clear I wasn't implying it was either drivers fault , it was basically a racing incident . It sure scattered a lot of debris on the track . Glad both drivers are ok .

[Noah930]

Wow, and now even Kimi and Max with half-spins under the yellow.

[matthewb0051]

Toto says that Russell shouldn't have tried the pass because it was a Mercedes he was passing. In the Sky interview the guys got him to admit that if it were another driver Bottas wouldn't have defended so hard.

The problem here is that even though they are on different teams one guy and one manufacturer controls both drivers. Rather takes away from the racing if a driver can be told what to do by someone other than his team principal.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/wolff-russell-has-lots-to-learn-after-f1-crash-with-bottas-at-imola/6332943/

[GH85Carrera]

So Hamilton make a rare error of his own, goes a fill lap down.

Then what turned out to suck for his teammate, and typical Hamilton luck, he gets the lap back, and get to 2nd place.

He did have to drive right to make the passes near the end.

Congrats Max.

And Massaspin spins again.

Really nice to see McLaren looking like a top team and not like a HAAS.

[rfuerst911sc]

In unrelated news Romain Grosjean finished 10th today in his first Indy car race . He started 7th and drove a solid race .

[rfuerst911sc]

I think post race penalties are silly .

Points change after penalties for Stroll, Raikkonen

[Noah930]

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc

I think post race penalties are silly .

Points change after penalties for Stroll, Raikkonen

Arguably the Stroll/Gasly swap of places was justified, because Stroll gained an unfair advantage on Gasly. But the Raikonnen penalty was/is ridiculous. Kimi got in trouble because he *didn't* overtake under yellow? He spun while behind the safety car, lost a couple spots in line, then didn't try to retake them while still under yellow, and that's what led to the penalty? Had he retaken his place in line (prior to the spin) he would have been OK? Seems like losing a couple spots would be penalty enough, no? What was he supposed to do (other than not spin)?

And did anything happen with the Bottas/Russell shunt? Or was that deemed to be just a racing incident?

[Reg]

Darn my PVR messed up and I missed it.

[rfuerst911sc]

I have no issues with penalties if they are valid but they should be called/determined/executed during the race . There is a team of stewards monitoring the race and every bit of minutia , can't they put down their tea or sparkling water for 5 minutes and make a decision ???

The only exception should be if something happens on the last lap or new data is presented after the race . This is the pinnacle of racing and should have a better referee system . Just my humble opinion 😁

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc

In unrelated news Romain Grosjean finished 10th today in his first Indy car race . He started 7th and drove a solid race .

He did. Not one misstep and he somehow didn't get clipped in the first lap melee. i expected that of him as he was always excellent in any car but F1. Many time winner and champion in lower series.

[Reg]

Originally Posted by Zeke

He did. Not one misstep and he somehow didn't get clipped in the first lap melee. i expected that of him as he was always excellent in any car but F1. Many time winner and champion in lower series.

I believe he was right beside Josef when he lost it!😳

Impressive run by CGR youngster.

[Rtrorkt]

Another parking lot winner. Remember the Cesar's Palace GP in the '80s? Horrible.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/56792549

[Reg]

The Barber track in Alabama looks spectacular and the facility looked top notch - well maybe not to f1 standards. I’d be curious to hear what Roman has to say after the first few weeks.

[astrochex]

Originally Posted by Rtrorkt

Another parking lot winner. Remember the Cesar's Palace GP in the '80s? Horrible.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/56792549

I went to the Las Vegas Parking Lot GP. What a yawner of a course.



This Miami course is far less horrible than Vegas. The length is surprisingly long for a street circuit.

[Deschodt]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

So Hamilton make a rare error of his own, goes a fill lap down.

Then what turned out to suck for his teammate, and typical Hamilton luck, he gets the lap back, and get to 2nd place.

+1 to all your comments... Even when he makes a mistake he lucks into a red flag deal, unbelievable. They say champions make their own luck, I am not a fan of HAM but he truly is lucky... Same last year when he finishes a race on the cord and goes flat past the finish line...

Funny thing to me, Mazespin. Joe Saward (a pretty good F1 journo but who thinks very highly of himself) said MAzepin would be faster than Schumacher. Muhaha...

[URY914]

Originally Posted by astrochex

I went to the Las Vegas Parking Lot GP. What a yawner of a course.



This Miami course is far less horrible than Vegas. The length is surprisingly long for a street circuit.

And flat as a board I'm guessing.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by Noah930

I think Russell was appropriately aggressive. He had a good run on Bottas, with DRS and all. Bottas moved a little to the right and in the end gave Russell enough room. But Russell was afraid Bottas would come over too far and juked to the right, thereby putting his right-side tires on the wet grass. Then disaster.

At nering 300 KPH, or 186 MPH things happen in super speed. George saw movement towards him from Boats, and did not know how far he was going to move over. He moved to the right just a little too far and zing, tire in the grass. It was all over in that instant. Both drivers made a mistake, but Botas caused George to make his error.

Originally Posted by URY914

And flat as a board I'm guessing.

Nope, it goes up Mt. Miami, lots of elevation change all through Florida.

[rfuerst911sc]

So now Russell is back tracking what he said about Bottas causing the incident . That tells me a rather unpleasant and one sided conversation with Toto took place . I imagine a lot of " yes sir " was spoken by Russell 😁

[GH85Carrera]

Called on the carpet by the man in charge. It tends to make most drivers (or any employee) toe the corporate line. Little doubt Toto can fire him and black ball him so no Mercedes clients would touch him. It is good to be the boss.