F1 2021 thread

[rusnak]

Another dubious statement by Toto.

[matthewb0051]

Glen: I think I dislike Hammy even more after seeing this. What say you?

Horner's comments at about 1:40

[Won]

Nuts, nuts, nuts...

[matthewb0051]

Interesting comments by James about the team's ethos about standing up in the face of adversity and accepting that things may go sideways but you assess and move forward.

I guess that doesn't apply to one of the drivers who is a team guy when winning but shares no blame when it goes tango uniform.

Great explanation of the multitude of things the strategists are considering what strategy to implement. Maybe they should explain that internally

[rusnak]

^ Once admitted to the Peerage, you assign blame. Accepting blame is for the plebes.

[herr_oberst]

Originally Posted by matthewb0051

Glen: I think I dislike Hammy even more after seeing this.

Ham would find a reason to ***** publicly about his race if he lapped the field.

[911pcars]

Do I sense a slant against Hamilton here? No sure what he said that got the feathers ruffled. He opined that challenger Verstoppen had more to prove than he did. True...What did I miss? (not the golden girl on the Monaco balcony).

... and if they were head-to-head on track, Hamilton thinks both would be careful not to take each other out. Seems reasonable to me. We'll see about that.

As for team play, each race group has depts. that manage, design, manufactures/preps the cars and manages race strategy. Hamilton provides professional setup feedback, does the driving and risks his life to win races. They all have professional duties and responsibilities to make up a WC F1 team. Each group must excel for team success. Seems to work. Seems to work better w/o suits introducing politics and made-for-press-drama in an attempt to keep everyone on their toes (including race fans) and create unnecessary pressure.

It's good to occasionally remind everyone of their expendibility but w/o fear and intimidation. However, obscene salaries, lifestyle payments and racing legacies are at stake and that sometimes brings out the worse in some people. Management should weed dead weight out of the hierarchy.

Were some of you guys around when Senna, Prost, Schumacher and many, many others were slugging it out for fame and notoriety? This is nothing.

MHO,
Sherwood

[herr_oberst]

Well, since you ask, I was around when Lauda, Peterson, Reggazoni, Laffite, Gilles, Andretti, James Hunt and the like were touring with the Grand Prix circus, eating Rob Walker's wife's brownies and playing backgammon on the pitwall during rainstorms.

So, yeah, I've been paying attention for a long time, and Hamilton, in spite of his wins and championships and millions has yet to earn my respect. Sorry, it's just the way I feel.

[Googam]

^^^^

That's all very true.....but you should have seen them all together at The Seneca Lodge (Watkins Glen), on race weekends. More like Frat brothers than snarky race car drivers.

[oldE]

I think the reason Hamilton was so p/o d was he had been managing his tires with the belief that the late pit stop overcut would allow him to make up a place or two. His race engineer went for the undercut which lost him two places. The Mercedes struggled to warm up the tires. That made the outlap slower. I don't think anyone here,if they had been in the same position would have just passed it off as no big deal.

Best
Les

[yellowperil]

There's talk of making changes to Monaco circuit to make it less boring. Why not a bit smaller car, with a little less front wing somewhere between these two


Copy to Ross Brawn

[javadog]

One reason I can’t stand the current F1 cars is illustrated above, how obnoxiously large they have become, especially their overall length. This comparison should help:

[GH85Carrera]

Just like the road cars of today, a lot of the size is mandated by safety equipment. I bet all the drivers really like the crush zones and the engineering used to keep the drivers alive. No way would the smaller generation of cars would have kept Grogean alive in his crash.

[javadog]

No doubt that modern F1 cars are a lot safer and that’s a good thing. However, a good percentage of the recent growth in the length is behind the cockpit, not in front of it.

[yellowperil]

The Principality would probably rather have smaller cars, than push casinos into the harbour. That track is going to be hard to make over for these BIG cars.

A shorter car, a little narrower, and do something with that wing that pretty well makes it impossible to pass.

I'll pass it on to Ross when he calls.

[herr_oberst]

It's been a dumb place to race since the races there started. As such, the Indy 500 and LeMans 24 will disappear before the Monaco GP does.
Try to imagine how much of the business - B 2 B - of F1 goes on in Monaco.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by herr_oberst

It's been a dumb place to race since the races there started. As such, the Indy 500 and LeMans 24 will disappear before the Monaco GP does.
Try to imagine how much of the business - B 2 B - of F1 goes on in Monaco.

Yea, the super rich get to play and show each other how rich they are. When billionaires play, there are lots of support staff and lots of deal making done.

[matthewb0051]

And the nut is off. If you don't like the dentist turn the volume down or off

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a36558356/bottas-f1-wheel-nut-removed/

[javadog]

Well, it’s about freaking time.

“Heavy duty machinery”... LOL...

[rusnak]

"cross-threaded"...pfffttt