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Are you guys frontline people?
I'm not.
I received an email yesterday on how to schedule my vaccine. Anyone over the age of 65 can get one..starting tomorrow.
I'm waiting until the rush is over.

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Old 01-10-2021, 12:51 AM
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My county is going to start with those 75+, after they finish the care homes.
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Are you guys frontline people?
I am a nursing student who also has a job working in the Operating Room.
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I am a nursing student who also has a job working in the Operating Room.
Thank you for your service to others.
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I work at a hospital. We decided to vaccinate family members because we have about 10% of our workforce out in quarantine we wanted a layer of protection around for the employees. My wife got one yesterday.

Plus we were given a limited amount of vaccines by the State. We have to use them up to get more so it's going live to anyone 65 and older tomorrow.
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Are you guys frontline people?
I'm in the Moderna study and was given the vaccine in September
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My parents have been scheduled for Wed. at a former mall near their house. They're in the 75+ group... big relief for me when they get them, but it'll be a while longer for me. I've never even had a flu shot (nor the flu as an adult).... but I'll get this one.
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Everyone remember, it takes 2 injections and time to get immunity. This in not a tetanus shot!
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I work at a hospital. We decided to vaccinate family members because we have about 10% of our workforce out in quarantine we wanted a layer of protection around for the employees. My wife got one yesterday.

Plus we were given a limited amount of vaccines by the State. We have to use them up to get more so it's going live to anyone 65 and older tomorrow.
Is that because the vaccines are most effective after the second dose so to minimize risk of employee infection they vaccinate the family? It doesn't make sense to me to vaccinate family members unless the family members are at high risk of exposure.
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Everyone remember, it takes 2 injections and time to get immunity. This in not a tetanus shot!
I don't recall, wasn't it the Moderna vaccine that the FDA was talking about giving a single dose to low risk folks because it offers some level of protection after the first dose?

"We know it induces identical immune response to the hundred microgram dose and therefore we are in discussion with Moderna and with the FDA," Dr. Moncef Slaoui, the head of Operation Warp Speed, told "Face the Nation" on Sunday.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-fda-moderna-cutting-half-speed-up/
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I thought I heard that "some" immunity was within 10-12 days after the first. Any truth to that? I wouldn't lower my guard, but sure hope that's the case.
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I am in the 65 and over group and received mine last Monday. Oklahoma has gone through healthcare workers, first responders, and nursing homes. My county is pushing 10% first shot vaccinations with another 5% scheduoed next week.
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I thought I heard that "some" immunity was within 10-12 days after the first. Any truth to that? I wouldn't lower my guard, but sure hope that's the case.
IIRC the argument was that the first shot gave "only" ~90% coverage and the second brought that up to ~98%. Some argued that ti would be better to have twice as many people at ~90% than half as many at ~98%... but, being that the Trump administration brought on production in parallel with trails, we are far enough ahead of the supply curve that giving high risk people higher protection is warranted.
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I don't recall, wasn't it the Moderna vaccine that the FDA was talking about giving a single dose to low risk folks because it offers some level of protection after the first dose?

"We know it induces identical immune response to the hundred microgram dose and therefore we are in discussion with Moderna and with the FDA," Dr. Moncef Slaoui, the head of Operation Warp Speed, told "Face the Nation" on Sunday.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-fda-moderna-cutting-half-speed-up/
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pres...id-19-vaccines

...We have been following the discussions and news reports about reducing the number of doses, extending the length of time between doses, changing the dose (half-dose), or mixing and matching vaccines in order to immunize more people against COVID-19. These are all reasonable questions to consider and evaluate in clinical trials. However, at this time, suggesting changes to the FDA-authorized dosing or schedules of these vaccines is premature and not rooted solidly in the available evidence. Without appropriate data supporting such changes in vaccine administration, we run a significant risk of placing public health at risk, undermining the historic vaccination efforts to protect the population from COVID-19.

The available data continue to support the use of two specified doses of each authorized vaccine at specified intervals. For the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine, the interval is 21 days between the first and second dose. And for the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine, the interval is 28 days between the first and second dose.

We know that some of these discussions about changing the dosing schedule or dose are based on a belief that changing the dose or dosing schedule can help get more vaccine to the public faster. However, making such changes that are not supported by adequate scientific evidence may ultimately be counterproductive to public health.

We have committed time and time again to make decisions based on data and science. Until vaccine manufacturers have data and science supporting a change, we continue to strongly recommend that health care providers follow the FDA-authorized dosing schedule for each COVID-19 vaccine...
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IIRC the argument was that the first shot gave "only" ~90% coverage and the second brought that up to ~98%. Some argued that ti would be better to have twice as many people at ~90% than half as many at ~98%... but, being that the Trump administration brought on production in parallel with trails, we are far enough ahead of the supply curve that giving high risk people higher protection is warranted.
From the FDA report PDF

There appears to be some protection against COVID-19 disease following one dose; however, these data do not provide sufficient information about longer term protection beyond 28 days after a single dose.

These results should be interpreted cautiously given the small sample size and case number and the short follow-up duration.
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Thanks for that. I knew I had read somewhere that there was discussion of reducing to on dose for folks in a certain age group but never saw anything beyond that.
I thought the suggestion of a half dose was a bit odd since it was tested and approved under EUA for a two dose vaccine. But I can see where if the immune response is good with one dose, they'd want to just give one dose to low risk folks. I'll have to go back and look at my link. I think there was a link within to the Moderna info.
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From the FDA report PDF

There appears to be some protection against COVID-19 disease following one dose; however, these data do not provide sufficient information about longer term protection beyond 28 days after a single dose.

These results should be interpreted cautiously given the small sample size and case number and the short follow-up duration.
That makes sense as to why they'd maintain a two dose regimen.
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Is that because the vaccines are most effective after the second dose so to minimize risk of employee infection they vaccinate the family? It doesn't make sense to me to vaccinate family members unless the family members are at high risk of exposure.
Yes.

As I said we're trying to protect employees by vaccinating those they spend the most time with.
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I don't recall, wasn't it the Moderna vaccine that the FDA was talking about giving a single dose to low risk folks because it offers some level of protection after the first dose?

"We know it induces identical immune response to the hundred microgram dose and therefore we are in discussion with Moderna and with the FDA," Dr. Moncef Slaoui, the head of Operation Warp Speed, told "Face the Nation" on Sunday.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-fda-moderna-cutting-half-speed-up/
No. Some health professionals have suggested this. The FDA has said that two injections at full strength are the way it was approved and that is the way it should be given.

I am sure there is data on antibody production between injections, as we had 10 tubes of blood drawn everytime we were in the clinic. But that is not approval by the FDA to change how the vaccine is given.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/01/05/covid-vaccine-fda-us-officials-health-experts-argue-dosing-schedule/4138358001/
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Thanks guys. I wouldn't suggest changing the doses, etc. and certainly everyone should get the 2nd one. It's still nice to know that "some" immunity is there after the first.

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