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greglepore 03-04-2021 10:31 AM

Very strange electrical issue, thoughts?
 
I cook sous vide using an anova immersion circulator, which has a built in pid temp control. When plugged into a specific outlet in my kitchen, the unit continues to heat beyond the setpoint. When plugged into any other outlet in the house, including outlets on the SAME circuit, it works fine. Tried another brand of cooker, does the same thing.
Electrician just left. All outlets on circuit appear normal, voltage good etc. Replaced the problematic one, and same problem...
Ghost in the outlet?

stevej37 03-04-2021 10:43 AM

No idea here why it would go above the set temp.

My Sous Vide Art has stopped a couple times when into an hour or more.
I quickly learned that when the plastic container got warm enough, the clamp was slipping down..forcing water over the max fill line. Now, I wedge something under the top of the clamp to keep it from slipping.

Nostril Cheese 03-04-2021 10:47 AM

Did you replace the outlet?

Rapewta 03-04-2021 10:48 AM

The only thing I can come up with because I am no professional is that you have
a single phase 220 volt power source to the home and that is two 110 volt circuits.
The one circuit of the two is has small voltage different than the other.
It might mean the solid state voltage threshold of your appliance doesn't accept or work as designed because the voltage of circuit #1 isn't within the tolerance.

Without knowing your internal house wiring 110 volt circuit distribution between the two 110
volt circuits that make up your load center, I would begin plugging it in in different rooms and maybe the other 110 volt circuit will accept the gizmo you are having trouble with.

greglepore 03-04-2021 10:48 AM

Yes, swapped out the outlet.

blucille 03-04-2021 10:59 AM

that's nuts.

any chance the thing has bluetooth or wifi so it can connect to your phone? Any chance the ghost is actually in the wireless communication....try an extension cord and moving the unit elsewhere, to a spot near one of the outlets that works perfectly.

wild-ass-guess for sure.

look 171 03-04-2021 11:26 AM

Weird? Try another piece of appliance?

Bill Douglas 03-04-2021 12:49 PM

Historically speaking; do you know of anyone, a prankster perhaps, or even a fat person, has died in the kitchen. And maybe remained as a poltergeist.

stevej37 03-04-2021 01:01 PM

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greglepore 03-04-2021 01:17 PM

Weird is right. I initially thought the cooker was bad, so I bought a different one from amazon, and it did exactly the same thing, and the kicker is that its got manual/wifi and the original one is manual/bluetooth.

look 171 03-04-2021 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11248345)
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look 171 03-04-2021 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by greglepore (Post 11248365)
Weird is right. I initially thought the cooker was bad, so I bought a different one from amazon, and it did exactly the same thing, and the kicker is that its got manual/wifi and the original one is manual/bluetooth.

I really think its your appliances and I think Bliculle is correct, it must be the bluetooth or wifi that's the cause. What the hell is bluetooth doing on a piece of appliance anyway?

rockfan4 03-04-2021 01:33 PM

Is it the outlet, or something near it?
If you set it in the same spot, but use an extension cord to run it from another outlet, do you have the issue? If you move it to another spot where it doesn't have a problem, but use an extension cord to plug it into the problem outlet, is there still a problem?

greglepore 03-04-2021 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockfan4 (Post 11248385)
Is it the outlet, or something near it?
If you set it in the same spot, but use an extension cord to run it from another outlet, do you have the issue? If you move it to another spot where it doesn't have a problem, but use an extension cord to plug it into the problem outlet, is there still a problem?

Good question. I'll try that. I thought about rfi, but there's not a nearby source.One outlet that works is within 3 ft of the problem one.

greglepore 03-04-2021 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 11248374)
I really think its your appliances and I think Bliculle is correct, it must be the bluetooth or wifi that's the cause. What the hell is bluetooth doing on a piece of appliance anyway?

Its there to allow remote start/stop and temp monitoring. If I change the temp on either unit via wireless, it changes the set temp on the display, but the unit still overruns it, but again, only on the problem outlet. And the unit recognizes the set temp, as it beeps as it should when it reaches it, but the heat stays on. Also, the temp reading on the unit is correct (actual temp, not the set temp) as I've checked that.

Its kinda academic as I can use it on the good outlets and the electrician couldn't find anything that would burn the house down, but it stumps me.

stevej37 03-04-2021 02:03 PM

If you decide it's the cooker....this is the one I have....works perfect, no bluetooth

https://www.amazon.com/Sous-Vide-Cooker-Immersion-Circulator/dp/B077GXV153/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=sous+vide+art&qid=161 4898904&sr=8-3

carambola 03-04-2021 02:04 PM

I like rockfan's thinking, nature v nurture.

sc_rufctr 03-04-2021 04:20 PM

Have you verified the voltage of the problem outlet with a multi meter?

beepbeep 03-04-2021 10:46 PM

I reckon there is self-inflicted resonance circuit and that outlet just happens to have right wire length for that oscillation to occur. Chinesium parts are very bad when it comes to spreading interference back to network. There is probably chopper step-down circuit in the heater which is not damped by condensator (saves 50c) and that is feeding back. Oscilloscope should tell...

dad911 03-05-2021 12:29 AM

Did electrician measure voltages under load (with it plugged in?) including the neutral? I suspect he just plugged in the simple tester.

If you have a voltmeter, measure voltage from hot-neutral and neutral to ground with the sous vide plugged in. Or plug a light into the same receptacle and see if it flickers when the sous vide is on.

My money is on resistance (poor connection somewhere) in the neutral or ground lines.


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