Back country guide attacked by....

[recycled sixtie]

Back country guide attacked by grizzly bear in Yellowstone...
Looks like he was fishing while a grizzly was in the area and was defending his kill.

[Baz]

Here's the story:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/montana-backcountry-guide-dies-after-he-was-mauled-grizzly-near-n1264590

Man is NOT the apex predator!

[GH85Carrera]

Nope, not much of any other critter on the planet can whip a Grizzly Bear. Maybe a Kodiak bear or a polar bear would be an even fight.

[cassisrot]

Don’t mess with black bears. They will also mess up your day.

[recycled sixtie]

Originally Posted by Baz

Here's the story:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/montana-backcountry-guide-dies-after-he-was-mauled-grizzly-near-n1264590

Man is NOT the apex predator!

Thanks for the link Baz

[Baz]

Originally Posted by recycled sixtie

Thanks for the link Baz

My please, Guy! Thanks for the initial posting!

[pwd72s]

Recall reading an old car magazine story...writer visiting relatives in Alaska. Going fishing with a 16 year old nephew. Before leaving the home, the nephew grabbed a 1911. Writer asked why. Kid simply said: "Bears". Writer thought the kid was being dramatic, a put on. Returning with a nice mess of trout. the kid's mother began chewing on him...for not taking at least the 30-06 rifle!

A bit of education about Alaska life for the writer...

[deckard]

i remember reading that article as well. the uncle went on to ask him something like, did he think a gun would stop a bear and the kid said no but it would scare them off.

[ckcarr]

Always amuses me when my local "experts" say "Bears won't hurt you, they're afraid of you.."

[Bill Douglas]

They say .44 Magnum is an excellent bear spray.

[GH85Carrera]

When we visited Denali National park we got to see a Grizzly in the wild, fairly close. We were inside the bus, and the driver had a rifle.

When we went horse back riding at 9:00 PM and still hours of daylight left, the lead and sweep riders bout had rifles. I asked one what type of rifle he had, and he said they were told to not discuss it with the tourist. They wanted it to seem like just a nice safe ride through the permafrost and pretty scenery, and the rifles were for decorations only. No doubt they were serious caliber rifles and not for shooting rabbits.

[Norm K]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

Nope, not much of any other critter on the planet can whip a Grizzly Bear. Maybe a Kodiak bear or a polar bear would be an even fight.

A 600lb Siberian Tiger would probably give a Grizzly a run for its money.

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[GG Allin]

You have to swallow your pride and orally please the bear, just give him what he wants.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by Norm K

A 600lb Siberian Tiger would probably give a Grizzly a run for its money.

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Maybe a female Grizzly.

The males can get really big. The largest one so far is:

Just over one thousand six hundred pounds. It stood 12′ 6′ high at the shoulder, 14′ to the top of his head. It is the largest grizzly bear ever recorded in the world.

With a full 1,000 pounds on the tiger, it would be so strong the tiger would be no big deal.

Imagine a 14 foot tall mad hunk of teeth and claws. They can kill a full grown moose with one swipe of the paw and claws.

[Jeff Higgins]

What a terrible tragedy. My heart goes out to his family and loved ones. This is, however, always in the background when we are out in bear country. The bear had no malicious intent, he or she was simply doing what comes naturally - defending a hard earned kill. Anyone who spends any time in good bear country always has this in the backs of their minds. His number was up. Not much anyone can do about these things.

I've spent an awful lot of time in "good bear country". Backpacking in our Olympic and Cascade mountain ranges during the summer and fall, fly fishing our wilderness streams and rivers, that kind of stuff. And yes, well, when younger, I hunted them with enthusiasm. Took many trips to Alaska to do just that. And I took my fair share of bears. In retrospect, probably more than my fair share. My attitude about them has changed as I've aged... I would rather just watch them now then shoot them - that particular "thrill is gone".

They are very, very impressive animals when you start having to deal with a big one that you have taken. Their muscle mass is simply astonishing. There is absolutely no way I would ever want to be faced with dealing with one that is upset with me. Even the biggest rifle would feel like a little Red Ryder with one of those bearing down upon you. I used the venerable old .375 H&H magnum, shooting 300 grain bullets at .30-'06 velocities and, even then, sometimes they wouldn't even react to the first hit. Or the second... These are very tough animals. Fortunately, every "close encounter" when I was not hunting them (and therefor wholly inadequately armed), they were, indeed, more afraid of me than I was of them. I've separated several momma bears from their cubs, supposedly the most dangerous encounter possible - and they have uniformly left me with their cubs and scaddadled. I have even been run over by an escaping bear, intent on getting as rapidly as possible to where I wasn't. The thing bowled me over only because I was blocking his escape route. Never entered his mind to hurt me in any way.

They are all, like us, individuals. The most sure fired way to find yourself in trouble with one, however, is just what this poor guy did. There is no predicting it, either. Just plain bad luck.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

Maybe a female Grizzly.

The males can get really big. The largest one so far is:

Just over one thousand six hundred pounds. It stood 12′ 6′ high at the shoulder, 14′ to the top of his head. It is the largest grizzly bear ever recorded in the world.

With a full 1,000 pounds on the tiger, it would be so strong the tiger would be no big deal.

Imagine a 14 foot tall mad hunk of teeth and claws. They can kill a full grown moose with one swipe of the paw and claws.

I have a typical 8' ceiling at my home. The shoulder of this bear is 4' taller then that waling on all fours? You must talking about when he's standing up on its hind legs?

I almost don't hear about the Asian bears of Russia? I wonder if they are just as dangerous or if its even the same as a Grizzly or Brown?

[craigster59]

I've encountered Black bears while fishing and backpacking but never a Grizzly. I have to say, one cinnamon bear I came up on (actually he snuck into my camp) was pretty darn big. I picked up my fly rod tube and waved it around to scare him off. The speed he ran up the hill was amazing, I could have never outran him.

[look 171]

I was up at Tahoe with my kids. My younger kids was only about 1 at the time. We came back to our hotel with him in my arms. I heard this click and looked up and see a pair of shiny eyes looking at us. I yelled as loud as I can waved my arms and the bear ran off only to turn around to look at us again around the edge of the building ( I siht my pants by now). It had jumped off an 8' wall. They were after the food in the dumpster but heard us and wanted to get out. It was literally a click from his claws hitting the ground. It was super stealthy.

[Norm K]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

Maybe a female Grizzly.

The males can get really big. The largest one so far is:

Just over one thousand six hundred pounds. It stood 12′ 6′ high at the shoulder, 14′ to the top of his head. It is the largest grizzly bear ever recorded in the world.

With a full 1,000 pounds on the tiger, it would be so strong the tiger would be no big deal.

Imagine a 14 foot tall mad hunk of teeth and claws. They can kill a full grown moose with one swipe of the paw and claws.

The tiger would be named David.

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