Shallow Philips wrench

[rusnak]

Ratcheting bit driver

[Rusty Heap]

super small stubby


https://www.summitracing.com/parts/otc-4781?seid=srese1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwyN-DBhCDARIsAFOELTnWwXLR-mMr95tnO__T1Qozfg2mC9sb50ewCrFLbQBgo02AD_12CYEaAvR 8EALw_wcB

[dad911]

Amazon $13

Ultra Low Profile Offset

[pmax]

If those fail, hacksaw blade.

But remember, assembly is simply the reverse of disassembly.

[911 Rod]

I'm going insane.

[stevej37]

That's likely to twist on your finger.
A good layer of super glue would hold it better.

[911 Rod]

Originally Posted by stevej37

That's likely to twist on your finger.
A good layer of super glue would hold it better.

My tech jokingly said the same thing!
I was hoping to press on the end with my thumb, but really it was for the photo.
I'm at my wits end and currently looking for a tech that has done this.
Curious to see what this costs me to remove two screws.
I'm good with a grand at this point.
4:20 at 4/20 is coming soon!!

[id10t]

Originally Posted by 911 Rod

The sensor is in the hopper to tell you when to put another toner bottle in. Without it the machine is scrap.

Why? Will it not try to function if there isn't enough toner?

If so, then figure out what kinda signal that sensor is sending/blocking, and emulate that.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by 911 Rod

I'm going insane.

immediately came to mind...

[GH85Carrera]

My gas grill had a similar access problem when the spark generator igniter died. I am pretty sure they started with the igniter and built the grill around it. Even if I could replace the physical button-igniter, there was no way to hook up the wires.

I finally just made a ugly bracket and added the replacement switch to the bottom of the grill. Only if you look under the grill can you see it.

Is there any way to remove more of the copier to gain access to the screws?

Have you looked on-line for the repair manual for that model of copier? They might have the procedure the pros have to use to replace that switch.

[911 Rod]

Originally Posted by id10t

Why? Will it not try to function if there isn't enough toner?

If so, then figure out what kinda signal that sensor is sending/blocking, and emulate that.

A bit more complex than that. The toner is mixed with magnetic developer that then sends it to a drum and then a transfer blanket. if you over or under tone in the developer bad things happen.

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

Is there any way to remove more of the copier to gain access to the screws?

Have you looked on-line for the repair manual for that model of copier? They might have the procedure the pros have to use to replace that switch.

I was fully prepared to drill holes to access the screws. I have dismantled the machine to the point I was having an anxiety attack thinking I could put it back together.
Unfortunately there were too many vital parts (gears, shafts etc.) for me to drill through.

[911 Rod]

I also have 1,000's of pages of manuals and advice from a tech.

[1990C4S]

Originally Posted by 911 Rod

4:20 at 4/20 is coming soon!!

That will definitely help solve the problem.

[jcwade]

One of these.

Ratcheting too.

[john walker's workshop]

Standard 1/4 drive ratcheting hex driver, slip in a short bit, weld the end and grind as thin as possible.

[cabmandone]

Braze or epoxy Phillips head into a 1/4 box end wrench or glue one into a 1/4 ratcheting end wrench.

[herr_oberst]

4 color copier/printers are such an enigma.
On the one hand, the engineering solutions devised to solve all the intricate tasks needed to create a print that is almost undetectable from offset is astonishing. On the other hand, manufacturing to meet a price point means that a service contract is a must. Nothing has been overlooked in the interest of saving a penny. Once the first sensor or circuit board or gear drive is roached, you need to accept that the rest of the machine already has one plastic caster in the scrap heap.

[flatbutt]

Designers should be required to perform service before finalizing their creations.

[911 Rod]

Thanks for the tips guys.
There is not room for any of those tools. lol
The screws are 1/8" away from the sensor, 1/4" away from the plate behind it, I can swing the tool maybe 1/2" and the tool can be no longer than 1" so I can swing it.
Service contract is a good way to kill my profits as a small business. Senseless.

[911 Rod]

Update.
I called in a tech. 2 of them showed up and ripped the machine apart like a fat kid on a smartie.
Took them 2 hours and I'm back in business.
Best $400 I've ever spent.
This is the first service call I have had to put in for the 3 years since I canceled my contract.
Like they say "If you are not handsome, you better be handy!".