The age of entitlement

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by unclebilly

How would you handle this situation?

I don't know why you called the thread "The age of entitlement." I was an employer for 30 years and I had to deal with dickheaded employees of all ages.

I assume you want to know how I, as the manager, would handle it. In his place how I would handle it would depend on the company protocol as established by the manager's boss. If as the manager I had the power to tell the employee when she would take lunch and had the power to terminate her, I would fire the twit.
If my boss said only he had the power to punish or terminate an employee, I would be lobbying for him to can her.

[wdfifteen]

[QUOTE=911 Rod;11304494]I get the age of entitlement thing.

I don't. I agree with these guys.

“Entitlement covers the whole spectrum of the population. “ - Marv

“entitlement spans all generations.” – Vash

“You think this is a new phenomenon?” - OldE

[911 Rod]

Originally Posted by look 171

ya still gotta go out and get hookers and blows you lazy ass

Nope. You can order in!

[URY914]

Originally Posted by look 171

ya still gotta go out and get hookers and blows you lazy ass

I guess you never seen some of the hookup apps?

[flipper35]

At our facility she would have a supervisor talk to her for that and be given a final written warning. If she pulled that stunt again in she would be told not to return.

[flipper35]

I should add, we prefer to have quality people and will work short rather than have poor workers.

[ninelevenick]

[/QUOTE]and the public school's. They teach this entitlement crap and enable them. I can't standit.[/QUOTE]

Please expound upon this claim, look 171.

[fastfredracing]

My 15 year old boy told me that one of his biggest fears, is that he becomes a workaholic like his dad .

[stealthn]

As an employer I hate the new “work ethics”, it’s tough to find good people WITH a good work ethic. A “youngster” that worked for my wife was on social media more than he worked, and he actually told her “I can’t work this much”, sadly he was union and hard to get rid of.

I hope my boys have learned their work ethic from my wife and I...

[mjohnson]

I work with a few graduates of our state's tech school - the best of a pretty not good state education-wise I guess (though I think the kids from NM State are the most solid of the locals).

More than a few younger ones proudly state "I didn't go to xxxx for four years to go do that..."

An older gent myself, or at least I graduated in the previous century from another Rocky Mountain-centric tech school recalled that we got beaten into us for all of the six years I was there that there was no job beneath us. If it gets the mine moving again, get in there with that plunger...

So funny - I got a load of crap dumped on my desk today and will be doing some pretty menial stuff for the next few days. My response? "Meh, I've been payed to do worse..." I once spent a week picking through shreddings and garbage for one little mistakenly discarded classified trinket. Whatevah - it's a job.

[tabs]

Originally Posted by unclebilly

It’s the clock watching entitlement mentality - I need to show up for 8 hours to get paid. I don’t actually need to ‘show up or do anything’ but my body needs to be in the building to meet the requirements of the job.

I hate dealing with these ‘no minds’ which I why despite my best intentions to support local, I prefer to buy online.

Hey i am a union man..and proud of hardly working.

[tabs]

In my last job they have a picture of me sleeping in a chair with a cigar dangling from my lips.

[tabs]

Originally Posted by URY914

I was talking to someone the other day about how our shopping and retail world has changed.

Walmart put local mom and pop's out of business and brought it all under one roof.
QVC/HSN allowed shopping from your TV and phone at home.
Amazon has allowed shopping to be on your cell phone and delivered within days

What is next?

All i do is sit on the sofa all day and sometimes into the night buying stuff. Like espresso makers..

[unclebilly]

Originally Posted by mjohnson

I work with a few graduates of our state's tech school - the best of a pretty not good state education-wise I guess (though I think the kids from NM State are the most solid of the locals).

More than a few younger ones proudly state "I didn't go to xxxx for four years to go do that..."

An older gent myself, or at least I graduated in the previous century from another Rocky Mountain-centric tech school recalled that we got beaten into us for all of the six years I was there that there was no job beneath us. If it gets the mine moving again, get in there with that plunger...

So funny - I got a load of crap dumped on my desk today and will be doing some pretty menial stuff for the next few days. My response? "Meh, I've been payed to do worse..." I once spent a week picking through shreddings and garbage for one little mistakenly discarded classified trinket. Whatevah - it's a job.

I used to be the senior technical advisor for one of the worlds largest oilfield service companies. One of my last projects was electrifying, automating, and customizing a fluid injection unit. Basically, I took and older chem van (semi truck and trailer) and we dumped about a million bucks into it making it amazing. In the middle of a chem van is a spill trough and it was nasty.

When I picked up the unit at the base where it was stored, I needed to strip all of the old controls, hydraulics, progressive cavity pumps, etc out of it before it could go to the fab shop. The sump also needed to be scraped out and pressure washed. I asked if there was a ‘broken wing guy’ (someone on modified duty) or anyone on the ‘5hit list’ that could help me. The base manager thought he was funny to say, ‘nope’.

I was happy to do the nasty job knowing I was getting 2-3x the pay of anyone at that base including the base manager... once the base manager figured out who I was and my reporting structure, I had all the help I could ask for.

[peppy]

We are in the worst shape for employees in the 40 years I've been in the restaurant business.

[tabs]

Back in the day my dad worked at Vandyland with a ret AF lite col whose GS 14 position got eliminated. He rifted a guy on base and was watering lettuce at the base bx for GS 14 pay.. That quickly.came to an end when Congress got wind of it..transfering him into the group.my dad was in. Which was monitoring Minute Man missle launchs once a month.

[mjohnson]

Originally Posted by unclebilly

I used to be the senior technical advisor for one of the worlds largest oilfield service companies...

You probably know my peeps from Golden then, even if I'm a simple country metallurgist (it's the Mrs mjohnson that is the ChemE/Petroleum doctor). It's a hard-earned reputation to be known as a group to work hard, and to be able to do what needs to be done. Just doing a good job at anything is a reward in itself - though let's be honest, I do appreciate being grossly overpaid for time to time for just sweeping the floor.

[mjohnson]

Originally Posted by tabs

Back in the day my dad worked at Vandyland with a ret AF lite col whose GS 14 position got eliminated. He rifted a guy on base and was watering lettuce at the base bx for GS 14 pay.. That quickly.came to an end when Congress got wind of it..transfering him into the group.my dad was in. Which was monitoring Minute Man missle launchs once a month.

I've been to vandyland for a MMIII launch. It was February and when they do those launches they exercise the entire crew just as much as the missile they plucked from the prairie. So cute to see those kids from Minot, from the junior officers that sit in the LCCs and turn keys to the maintainers that turn wrenches, happy as hell to have a delay and spend another week in SoCal. Didn't see too much entitlement there, that's for sure. Quite a humbling trip...

[Bill Douglas]

Yeah Generation Y people. This situation typifies them.

A frriend had a design company full of these people. A bunch of Gen-Y kids swanning around in slow motion. It turned out they were employees It would hurt me too much to hire someone like this.

And yes, his design company did go bust after a while and now he works for himself out of the converted garage and does OK.

[unclebilly]

Originally Posted by mjohnson

You probably know my peeps from Golden then, even if I'm a simple country metallurgist (it's the Mrs mjohnson that is the ChemE/Petroleum doctor). It's a hard-earned reputation to be known as a group to work hard, and to be able to do what needs to be done. Just doing a good job at anything is a reward in itself - though let's be honest, I do appreciate being grossly overpaid for time to time for just sweeping the floor.

I knew exactly what School of Mines you were referring to in your earlier post...

I know some great people from there.