mRNA vaccine inventor speaks out, YouTube deletes video discussing risks

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by Aurel

I fixed the quote for better accuracy.

But it’s not a quote.
If you have something to say, have the courage to come out and say it under your own name. Only pussies hid behind someone else’s name.

[cockerpunk]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

There we go, Manbearpig did it.

You kids have fun with copy/pasting the PSAs from social media about the “fully tested” vaccine that was developed in 1/5 of the time as a regular vaccine using experimental genetic technology and is being administered under an emergency authorization, not an full FDA approval. And the fact that many people have gotten sick or died which is actively suppressed by social media and search engines like Google. If you don’t believe me, try doing the same search with Google and their “cultivated” results and a search engine like Duck Duck Go that doesn’t manipulate the results. But I’m sure they’re all doing that for our own good, right? I mean hiding the truth from the public is fine, right? If the truth is being actively suppressed, how do you really know what percentage of the vaccinated are getting sick?

if you had a source for your claims, youd cite one. but you dont.

meanwhile, breakthrough infections account currently for .1% of the vaccinated, so the vaccine remains currently 99.9% effective, and higher than 90% (some suggest 98%) of current covid19 cases are of people who are unvaccinated:

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187?utm_source=facebo ok&utm_medium=news_tab&utm_content=curated&fbclid=IwAR3vVco3pkk_xFbSxM7hKOgrlps6oTB-8cVUGC07ypRUWd0an7H9iNF7l5I

the new delta variant is dangerous, it spreads even easier. and the faster we can kill off covid19, the less chance there is for another variant, one that the vaccine is not effective against appears, and we have to do this all over again. yes, do all of this, all of it, all over again.

get your shots. save us from having to do this all over again. the pandemic is over, if you get your shots.

[thor66]

Originally Posted by jyl

I have been reading about the history of developing mRNA vaccines. There is a Hungarian woman who could potentially get a Nobel for it. https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/10/the-story-of-mrna-how-a-once-dismissed-idea-became-a-leading-technology-in-the-covid-vaccine-race/ I recommend reading that.

So imagine my surprise at seeing this post. Who is this “inventor of the mRNA vaccine” Malone guy who I’ve not read about?

Well, I have not found any mention of him except as the self-declared self-promoted “inventor” and in countless crackpot websites, and now I guess in Fox News.

Try it. Google “Dr Robert Malone mRNA” and come back and tell us what his role really was in developing today’s mRNA vaccines.

I swear, some of you are so gullible, I’d think you were 8 years old.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-vaccine-cytotoxic/fact-check-covid-19-vaccines-are-not-cytotoxic-idUSL2N2O01XP

[onewhippedpuppy]

I know you seem averse to doing any meaningful research CP, but I’m not doing it for you. Especially something simple like a vaccine on average taking about 5 years to be approved.

The vaccine doesn’t work against the new variants but get the vaccine and it all goes away. Lol. Sorry buddy but this isn’t going away anytime soon. We have had a flu vaccine for decades and many years it is about 50% effective due to the many variants of the flu. The vaccines can’t stop them all so doctors make an educated guess as to which ones will be more prevalent, sometimes they guess better than others. The flu is a form of coronavirus, the behaviors between the flu and CV19 are very similar. This will go away when people shut off the tv and media BS and go back to living life again.

[thor66]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

I know you seem averse to doing any meaningful research, but I’m not doing it for you.

The vaccine doesn’t work against the new variants but get the vaccine and it all goes away. Lol. Sorry buddy but this isn’t going away anytime soon. We have had a flu vaccine for decades and many years it is about 50% effective due to the many variants of the flu. The vaccines can’t stop them all so doctors make an educated guess as to which ones will be more prevalent, sometimes they guess better than others. The flu is a form of coronavirus, the behaviors between the flu and CV19 are very similar. This will go away when people shut off the tv and media BS and go back to living life again.

The vaccine works well against the new variants.

I know you seem averse to doing any meaningful research, but I’m not doing it for you.

You have good knowledge on cars, but I can't figure out why you go crazy on nearly every other topic.

[Tobra]

How come nobody is crying about a political thread posted in the wrong forum?

[Aurel]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

But it’s not a quote.
If you have something to say, have the courage to come out and say it under your own name. Only pussies hid behind someone else’s name.

Are you feeling grumpy today? My name is next to the posting of modified quote, so you can attribute it to me now, if that makes you feel better. Jeesh…

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by Aurel

Are you feeling grumpy today? My name is next to the posting of modified quote, so you can attribute it to me now, if that makes you feel better.

I’m sure it would make the person you “quoted” feel better. Still don’t have the conviction to delete it and say your piece under your own name? Coward

[Aurel]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

I’m sure it would make the person you “quoted” feel better. Still don’t have the conviction to delete it and say your piece under your own name? Coward

One thing I really detest is being called a coward by strangers, and I do have the conviction of what I wrote. I edited the post accordingly, in case some dimwit would infer I did not want to own it.

[Arizona_928]

Originally Posted by Tobra

How come nobody is crying about a political thread posted in the wrong forum?

They air their dirty laundry. Do some call outs. Name call and go about their business like nothing happened.

[Arizona_928]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

I’m sure it would make the person you “quoted” feel better. Still don’t have the conviction to delete it and say your piece under your own name? Coward

You're one old cranky sob.

[cabmandone]

FWIW, Al Gore lied! I created the internet in my down time while creating the new vaccine.

[1990C4S]

Originally Posted by cabmando

FWIW, Al Gore lied! I created the internet in my down time while creating the new vaccine.

Cabmando needs to be banned now. Not got lying, but for creating the web and leading to this bull **** thread.

[Z-man]

While the topic of this thread is controversial, it is not about politics or religion.

As long as we keep the politics out of the continuing discussion, I think it should remain here, in PPOT. If it devoles into political mud-slinging, then it will be moved.

And remember, calling people poopy-heads is still no bueno...

Carry on...



PS: cabmando - I thought you created the Facebooks, and not the interwebs. I'm so confused...

[john70t]

Originally Posted by Tobra

How come nobody is crying about a political thread posted in the wrong forum?

^This.
And it's very poor form to use personal attacks in a logical discussion. (I have been guilty of same)

[Aurel]

Some relevant material on the topic under discussion:

[cabmandone]

Relevant? It's nonsense!

And if the spike protein is that dangerous, the risk exists with the vaccine as well as the virus. So the way the virus was spreading, you get the "cytoxic spike protein" by vaccine or by infection. No one so far has been shown to have immunity which prevents them from infection. Type O blood is the closest thing but it doesn't prevent infection but rather the person is able to better fight off the virus. That means the spike protein still existed within the person.

[Aurel]

Originally Posted by cabmando

Relevant? It's nonsense!

And if the spike protein is that dangerous, the risk exists with the vaccine as well as the virus. So the way the virus was spreading, you get the "cytoxic spike protein" by vaccine or by infection. No one so far has been shown to have immunity which prevents them from infection. Type O blood is the closest thing but it doesn't prevent infection but rather the person is able to better fight off the virus. That means the spike protein still existed within the person.

Yes! And that explains all the adverse reactions caused by the vaccine. They are, of course, not as severe as getting the virus itself, only because the spike protein load is orders of magnitude lower than when it is attached to a virus that replicates itself.

But the difference with a regular virus is that the spike protein is the nasty part that does all the damage, and the vaccination also puts it in the body. Only at much lower concentration, which hopefully goes to zero over time.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by Aurel

Yes! And that explains all the adverse reactions caused by the vaccine. They are, of course, not as severe as getting the virus itself, only because the spike protein load is orders of magnitude lower than when it is attached to a virus that replicates itself.

But the difference with a regular virus is that the spike protein is the nasty part that does all the damage, and the vaccination also puts it in the body. Only at much lower concentration, which hopefully goes to zero over time.

We don't know if the "adverse reactions" are vaccine related or the result of a hyper aware population reporting anything odd after being vaccinated. Some, like Porschegal have had very real adverse reactions while others simply mistake a natural immune response with an "adverse reaction".

The spike protein isn't the bad guy it's just the way the virus attaches to and enters the cell. The bad guy is the virus itself and the reaction or over reaction the body has to the infection.

[cabmandone]

The issue I have is that people say we shouldn't be vaccinating teenage people because they aren't at risk of serious issues if they get the virus. That's simply a ridiculous statement. If they're at risk due to the vaccine, they're equally at risk due to the virus. Teenage people are not immune to the virus.