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If your Win 10 was fully licensed, Win 11 is free and customizable.

Apple upgrades often just orphans older computers, and not that old of computers. I have a 10 year old computer that I keep running for a few of the software packages that are silly expensive, and still function fine. That computer is rather slow after using my new monster computer, but fully functional. It does not have the CPU needed for Win 11, so I guess in a few years when Win 10 is no longer supported it will be an 12 or 13 year old orphan. If it still works, I will still use it until the hardware dies. The hard drives themselves are mirrored, and when one drive dies, I just slap in a new drive and let it rebuild.
Your computers don't really count as they are anything but normal.

My wife is running a 7 or 8 year old Apple laptop, the least powerful one they made at the time, and it's running the latest release. 7 or 8 years is a LONG time in the computer world. It has not been my experience that Apple orphans stuff until it can't keep up. I did have (think I still may somewhere) a first or second gen iPad. Yes, that was eventually orphaned, but then it was old and woefully underpowered for the new stuff, so not a big deal. It still ran (runs) the last iOS that it ran.

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Old 12-31-2021, 06:00 AM
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Running 11 on one of my boxes before upgrading the others.

No issues.

Not a lot of overtly noticeable improvements but the UI is cleaner.
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Your computers don't really count as they are anything but normal.

My wife is running a 7 or 8 year old Apple laptop, the least powerful one they made at the time, and it's running the latest release. 7 or 8 years is a LONG time in the computer world. It has not been my experience that Apple orphans stuff until it can't keep up. I did have (think I still may somewhere) a first or second gen iPad. Yes, that was eventually orphaned, but then it was old and woefully underpowered for the new stuff, so not a big deal. It still ran (runs) the last iOS that it ran.
Apple's "end of life" for the OS is longer than MSFT's for Windows.

Apple average is 5 years or longer when the average lifespan of a PC is only 3-5.

Windows, especially 10, EOL is a bit obfuscated.

The major releases EOL in 1-3 years.

And when you consider that Apple maintained OS compatibility through 4 hardware architecture transitions, 68xxx->RISK Power PC->CISC Intel->M1 Silicone will maintaining legacy app support across 2 OS's, Classic Mac OS->.nix OSX, one really can't say Apple do not go above and beyond to keep older hardware viable.
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I checked my Windows 10 system updates and I have the necessary hardware to run Windows 11, however the upgrade option isn’t there yet.

I guess they are rolling it out in phases. My OS came with a new computer so I am confident I will qualify for the free upgrade.

I don’t want to be left behind with an OS that is no longer supported like I was with XP.
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I checked my Windows 10 system updates and I have the necessary hardware to run Windows 11, however the upgrade option isn’t there yet.

I guess they are rolling it out in phases. My OS came with a new computer so I am confident I will qualify for the free upgrade.

I don’t want to be left behind with an OS that is no longer supported like I was with XP.
It would be interesting to find out how many active licenses for Win 10 are active across the world. They are indeed doing a rolling update and the bandwidth needed to upgrade millions of computers all at once would be staggering.

My 10 year old computer only has a i5 CPU. Unless I replace the CPU with a faster one, it can't be upgraded to 11. I only use it for a couple of really old programs that have a nice features, and would cost the price of a nice Boxster S to upgrade to the new versions.
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I did an I5 laptop a couple weeks ago. Pretty easy.

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I do not like 11...
Lots of explorer crashes, lots of USB weirdness (drive mounts and dismounts 1x/sec), the start menu is all messed up and not customizable enough, no more tiles or apps menu (w/o an extra click), etc.. Aside from UI, it's fine and apps work, but why do they reinvent the interface every time ?

Seems to me MS gargled icons and spat them out in new locations, for no actual benefit whatsoever. I cannot think of anything 11 does better and made me go "ooh, clever"... More like "whereTF is this located now?".

I would vote Win10 - lots of stuff has no good drivers for 11 yet.
At the very least I'd wait till they release a 11.1 - with fixed start menu and taskbar - lots of unhappy professionals out there, it messes up a lot of enterprise environments that standardized on some UI. I know we aren't switching until Win10 is given the last rites, it would destroy the hospital app single sign on apps.


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