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cabmandone 07-28-2021 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11406389)
It’s in the news. If you don’t stay abreast of the news, why do you come here and discuss these things?

Even the big boys like NBC have mentioned it.

Of course it is! Silly me!

Here, try this on for size. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01316-7

cabmandone 07-28-2021 01:49 PM

Google must be suppressing information again! ;)

javadog 07-28-2021 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11406393)
Of course it is! Silly me!

Here, try this on for size. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01316-7

That’s five months ago.

You might want to look for articles that are more recent, say, this week.

cabmandone 07-28-2021 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11406401)
That’s five months ago.

You might want to look for articles that are more recent, say, this week.

Or with your great wisdom and recollection, you could always post one supporting your claim. But we both know that's simply asking too much of you. So I'll keep searching for it until I come to the conclusion you're blowing smoke up my ass again.

javadog 07-28-2021 01:55 PM

Here’s a couple clues for you:

Delta variant
ADE

See what you can do with that.

cabmandone 07-28-2021 01:56 PM

How about an actual article? No? It's super secret!

cabmandone 07-28-2021 01:58 PM

Nope! Nothin! DAMN YOU GOOGLE

javadog 07-28-2021 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11406418)
How about an actual article? No?

No. As I have made clear more times than I can count, I’m not your ***** and I don’t work for free. I don’t hang around here all that much anymore and I don’t have much beyond contempt for half of the people here, so you’re on your own.

Malone has talked about it in recent interviews, surely you can find that.

cabmandone 07-28-2021 02:01 PM

If you consider this your work... that might be part of the problem JD

You make up bullsh.t claims then run away and hide or worse yet make it sound like someone is lazy because they can't find anything supporting your bullsh.t claim. Move along.... stay away... Just stop making sh.t up and thinking anyone with half a brain will accept it as factual.

island911 07-28-2021 02:04 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibody-dependent_enhancement

I TRULY do hope that vaccine fears are the Climate Change type nothings of decades past.

Oh wait, is NYC under water? No polar ice caps?

-shrug- could be. Everyone is obsessed with China virus and vaccine. (gene therapy)

wdfifteen 07-28-2021 03:00 PM

I read something on the internet.
I don't remember where.
Look it up yourselves! Why is it that all the ****ing idiots here I think it’s my job to educate them?
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Arizona_928 07-28-2021 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by island911 (Post 11406437)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibody-dependent_enhancement

I TRULY do hope that vaccine fears are the Climate Change type nothings of decades past.

Oh wait, is NYC under water? No polar ice caps?

-shrug- could be. Everyone is obsessed with China virus and vaccine. (gene therapy)

Quote:

ADE was observed in animal studies during the development of coronavirus vaccines, but as of 14 December 2020 no incidents had been observed in human trials. "Overall, while ADE is a theoretical possibility with a COVID-19 vaccine, clinical trials in people so far have not shown that participants who received the vaccine have a higher rate of severe illness compared to participants who did not receive the vaccine."

Not shown bc they didn't want to look for it...

javadog 07-28-2021 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 11406517)
I read something on the internet.
I don't remember where.
Look it up yourselves! Why is it that all the ****ing idiots here I think it’s my job to educate them?
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

I’m not your ***** either, boy.

Why is it always the liberals and the post count whores that are never up to speed on any of the issues of a given day?

You can roll your eyes all you want, you may have figured out by now that I can’t stand you and don’t give two ****s whether or not you’re aware of tomorrow’s sunrise, or not.

cabmandone 07-28-2021 03:59 PM

Maybe you could post something supporting your bullsh.t claims and bring everyone up to speed? Nah! f'em! I hate'm all anyhow buncha dipchits

cabmandone 07-28-2021 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Arizona_928 (Post 11406523)
Not shown bc they didn't want to look for it...

Wouldn't you think they'd kinda notice if the vaccinated group had a higher rate of sever illness than the unvaccinated group? I would sure think so. Or wouldn't it be showing up now with the number of people vaccinated? You'd think this would be frontpage everywhere if it was something as prevalent as JD is making it out to be. But the best evidence we can come up with is "look at some doc's posts on twitter!"

Sooner or later 07-28-2021 04:02 PM

Does 31,273 posts make one a post count whore?

You made the claim. It is up to you to provide supporting information. It is not up to anyone else to prove you correct.

Asking for a link (that is probably in your history) is not out of the ordinary.

greglepore 07-28-2021 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 11406352)
So coercion and creating our own apartheid state is okay, but mandating it is abhorrent. Interesting take.


The government coerces folks all of the time-ie the draft in times of war. I have no problem with 'pays your money and takes your choice'. If you want to put personal risk over collective risk, that's your prerogative. But in any society there are social norms, and we don't individually get to choose what they are. So you can live within the norms, and reap the social benefits, or live outside them and forfeit the benefits.
Since when is anyone so privileged to reject the social contract but still accept all of the benefits?
I am not making an intellectual judgement about anyone's choice not to get the vax. They may be smarter than I am. But there is enough intelligent thought on the other side to make the social decision to allow vaxed people more freedom than non vaxed to be an acceptable norm. You may disagree, and I'm fine with that. I'm fine with Amish. Some of them are crazy smart. They don't criticize my way of life, they just reject it and go their own way.

greglepore 07-28-2021 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz (Post 11406390)
"Despite following CDC [Centers for Disease Control and Prevention] guidelines and being fully vaccinated, I tested positive for COVID-19 on Monday,"

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/07/20/texas-democrats-washington-coronavirus/

https://media.giphy.com/media/kVaj8JXJcDsqs/giphy.gif

Right. And the odds are you got really miserable for 48 hrs and didn't die.

javadog 07-28-2021 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11406597)
Maybe you could post something supporting your bullsh.t claims and bring everyone up to speed? Nah! f'em! I hate'm all anyhow buncha dipchits

Well, I think you’re finally starting to catch on. About ****ing time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 11406601)
Does 31,273 posts make one a post count whore?

You made the claim. It is up to you to provide supporting information. It is not up to anyone else to prove you correct.

Asking for a link (that is probably in your history) is not out of the ordinary.

If you had ever paid any attention, you’d find that most of my time spent here from when I first joined was giving advice on the 911 technical forum. That’s where the bulk of my posts got logged. I only showed up here once I got tired of answering the same questions 100 times, because all the new kids couldn’t find the search button.

For the last time, it’s not my job to educate your sorry asses. Here’s another hint, the CDC changed their masking guidance this week and that’s directly in response to what I’m referring to earlier. They have allowed that vaccinated people can have viral loads as high as unvaccinated people, they haven’t gone beyond that publicly, yet. Behind the scenes, they have figured out that, in fact, the viral load can be higher, but that won’t play well in Peoria.

We wouldn’t want to scare the sheep, now would we? Might hurt the Holograms’s vaccination numbers he’s so fond of. He had big plans for getting the country vaccinated, that was gonna be a big deal for him, and it turned out to be a ****ing disaster like everything else he touches.

Hey, give yourself a couple months and you’ll get up to speed. I have faith in you.

Sooner or later 07-28-2021 04:27 PM

So, nuttin


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