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stomachmonkey 07-28-2021 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 11406248)
Nope. You're angry. Palpable.

I mean, when you go to the Oh yeah? Well yer too stupid to live and I don't care. position, everyone can see your emotional anger.

It's hard to be angry when you make me laugh so often.

Plenty of highly intelligent individuals end up making what prove to be incorrect or bad decisions despite having performed due diligence.

Just because one is wrong that does not make them stupid.

But if someone sought my council and I offered a counterpoint that they ultimately disregard and it's a decision that does not directly impact me or mine then no, I don't really care.

Should I?

Now, if that decision has the potential to impact me or mine I care even less.

Let's be honest, seriously, do we, either of us, really care that someone who we perceived to be a potential threat to us removed themselves from the gene pool?

That wise sage Forrest Gump said it best.

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island911 07-28-2021 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Arizona_928 (Post 11406523)
Not shown bc they didn't want to look for it...

They definitely do not want to see this... (vaccineologist and inventor of mRNA vaccine)

10min's - pro vaccine guy simplifies that wiki page, talks about vaccine safety
https://rumble.com/vkfz1v-the-vaccine-causes-the-virus-to-be-more-dangerous.html

Pfizer vaccine waning ...

cabmandone 07-29-2021 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11406616)
Well, I think you’re finally starting to catch on. About ****ing time.



If you had ever paid any attention, you’d find that most of my time spent here from when I first joined was giving advice on the 911 technical forum. That’s where the bulk of my posts got logged. I only showed up here once I got tired of answering the same questions 100 times, because all the new kids couldn’t find the search button.

For the last time, it’s not my job to educate your sorry asses. Here’s another hint, the CDC changed their masking guidance this week and that’s directly in response to what I’m referring to earlier. They have allowed that vaccinated people can have viral loads as high as unvaccinated people, they haven’t gone beyond that publicly, yet. Behind the scenes, they have figured out that, in fact, the viral load can be higher, but that won’t play well in Peoria.

We wouldn’t want to scare the sheep, now would we? Might hurt the Holograms’s vaccination numbers he’s so fond of. He had big plans for getting the country vaccinated, that was gonna be a big deal for him, and it turned out to be a ****ing disaster like everything else he touches.

Hey, give yourself a couple months and you’ll get up to speed. I have faith in you.

See! This is why I come here. It's not to stay up on daily news but rather to stay up on the latest conspiracy theory.

"Behind the scenes" LOL... Now it's "behind the scenes" when earlier it was everywhere in the news that viral load is higher. Today it should be that everyone is censoring this information... everyone... It's a big conspiracy!

I read something the other day about a doctor testing every patient he vaccinated. He found there was nothing abnormal found in any of his patients. I'm not going to post a link because well... f you! I'm not doing your homework for you!

cabmandone 07-29-2021 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 11406646)
They definitely do not want to see this... (vaccineologist and inventor of mRNA vaccine)

10min's - pro vaccine guy simplifies that wiki page, talks about vaccine safety
https://rumble.com/vkfz1v-the-vaccine-causes-the-virus-to-be-more-dangerous.html

Pfizer vaccine waning ...

Correction: Self proclaimed inventor. No one outside of he and his wife refer to him as such and there's no reference anywhere except by he and his wife that he's the inventor..

Tobra 07-29-2021 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 11406363)
Understandable since we both have such huge and diverse sample sets.

This does not make sense. You did not answer the question


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Originally Posted by greglepore (Post 11406614)
Since when is anyone so privileged to reject the social contract but still accept all of the benefits?

Happens regularly.

Every single illegal alien does it every day. Our politicians do it as a matter of course. This entire scamdemic fiasco tossing The Constitution into the crapper, literally hundreds of examples if you care to consider the matter seriously

javadog 07-29-2021 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11406856)
See! This is why I come here. It's not to stay up on daily news but rather to stay up on the latest conspiracy theory.

"Behind the scenes" LOL... Now it's "behind the scenes" when earlier it was everywhere in the news that viral load is higher. Today it should be that everyone is censoring this information... everyone... It's a big conspiracy!

I read something the other day about a doctor testing every patient he vaccinated. He found there was nothing abnormal found in any of his patients. I'm not going to post a link because well... f you! I'm not doing your homework for you!

Here’s the thing. I used to post really long, detailed threads. They were full of links and other information. None of the ****ing idiot liberals on this site would read the links. If any of my sources were even slightly right of CNN, they would dismiss them out of hand. Wouldn’t read them, wouldn’t consider any points I made, everything was just ****ing right wing conspiracy.

After a while, I decided that all that work was a ****ing waste of my time. Which brings me to where we are today. Don’t like it? Tough ****. I decided one day that I had better things to do then to spend hours and hours here every day. Now I pop in a couple times a day and make comments, then go do something more productive.

I’m not concerned. The news will eventually catch up, it always does. And if you don’t have me to argue with, you’ll just argue with someone else. That’s what you do. IDGAF.

wdfifteen 07-29-2021 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11406593)

You can roll your eyes all you want, you may have figured out by now that I can’t stand you and don’t give two ****s whether or not you’re aware of tomorrow’s sunrise, or not.

And yet you are posting here. :rolleyes:

You are just one of the many internet trolls who post up crackpot conspiracy theories and then challenge skeptics to go look up the source.
Any serious person would remember the source of something they consider important enough to repeat and be prepared to explain why they think the source is credible.
You are angry because some of us here are familiar with the game and see right through you. So yeah, roll eyes is appropriate.

Sooner or later 07-29-2021 04:56 AM

You have wasted more time making excuses why you can't/won't/shouldn't post a link than the time it would have taken to just post the link.

I am pro 1st Amendment. Though it can be restricted by business for business reasons
I am pro 2nd Amendment. Though it can be restricted by business for business reasons
I am pro police. One uncle was a cop. My BIL is a cop. I make a point to thank any officer in uniform for their service and tell them to be safe.
I am pro life, with a few exceptions. Rape being one. I think that the current laws are a near perfect compromise since both sides appear to be unhappy about current law.
I am pro military. If we decide to go to war our goal should be to level the country until the enemy cries uncle. We would probably keep our noses out of everyone's business. We would probably be involved in fewer wars if we used that path.
Men shouldn't compete against women in sports.
Gays should have the same marriage rights as hetro's.
Voting methods should move into the 21st century. ID should be required with any voting method.
Global warming is happening. I am not sure of how much influence is caused by man. I suspect it is minimal.

cabmandone 07-29-2021 05:02 AM

I was going to reply to that "You're a buncha meanies" post but I think Sooner has it covered pretty well.

He has at least a half dozen posts explaining why he won't post a link... when he simply could have posted a link and been done with this. But he hates half the people here... which is why he keeps coming back... day... after day... after day... after day.

Now
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2107058?query=featured_home

flatbutt 07-29-2021 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11406916)
I was going to reply to that "You're a buncha meanies" post but I think Sooner has it covered pretty well.

He has at least a half dozen posts explaining why he won't post a link... when he simply could have posted a link and been done with this. But he hates half the people here... which is why he keeps coming back... day... after day... after day... after day.

Now
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2107058?query=featured_home

I did a quick "Evelyn Woods" scan of that paper. It has some interesting stuff in it but I didn't see any statement regarding adverse events. That is out of the ordinary in my experience. Perhaps the authors use of "self reported outcomes" plays in to that?

Rikao4 07-29-2021 06:23 AM

our resident vaccine pusher's
remind me of the folks in that experiment..
we've read about..
that pushed the shock button..
on fellow classmates..

'it was for their own good you know..'

Rika

1990C4S 07-29-2021 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rikao4 (Post 11406974)
our resident vaccine pusher's
remind me of the folks in that experiment..
we've read about..
that pushed the shock button..
on fellow classmates..

'it was for their own good you know..'

Rika

There are science based reasons for being in favor of vaccines. 'For your own good' isn't really relevant. If it was only 'you' most people would not GAF.

There are also lots pf people here who would gladly shock some of the other people who post here.

No need to confuse the two groups.

Bob Kontak 07-29-2021 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 11407005)
There are science based reasons for being in favor of vaccines.

Why is this not the end of the thread, then?

Better yet.....

The end. Thank you.

island911 07-29-2021 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11406858)
Correction: Self proclaimed inventor. No one outside of he and his wife refer to him as such and there's no reference anywhere except by he and his wife that he's the inventor..

Correction of your correction: Dr Malone never claimed that he was the sole inventor of the mRNA vaccines, but rather that he is named on nine "vaccine technology platform." patents.

All this says to me (and is true when anyone says they are an inventor) is that they were part of what ever was developed. -Enough so to be listed on the patent(s).

It is disingenuous to try to discredit the man by saying; yeah, well he was not the sole inventor. - so then he's a big fat liar.

For example, Elon Musk likely has inventions for rockets. That would make him a rocket inventor. No need to jump up and down insisting that he is not THEEE rocket inventor.

ANd if Musk talks about rocket safety, I expect that he knows something about the space.

speeder 07-29-2021 07:26 AM

A better example would be you claiming that Elon Musk was the inventor of rockets and then squealing when corrected.

island911 07-29-2021 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 11407062)
A better example would be you claiming that Elon Musk was the inventor of rockets and then squealing when corrected.

uhm... Feeling a bit butt hurt this AM speeder? Need to lash out?

javadog 07-29-2021 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11406916)
I was going to reply to that "You're a buncha meanies" post but I think Sooner has it covered pretty well.

He has at least a half dozen posts explaining why he won't post a link... when he simply could have posted a link and been done with this. But he hates half the people here... which is why he keeps coming back... day... after day... after day... after day.

See, Nick, you just don't think. It's not that I couldn't post a link, it's just that I'd have to go digging through the history of the sites I visited yesterday or the day before, to find it. As I previously said, that's hundreds and hundreds of pages, every day. Unlike most of you, I don't have a day job, so I spend some days surfing through endless web sites and other things.

Be easier for you *******s to do a search. If Google doesn't bring it up, maybe try a search engine that doesn't manipulate search results for political reasons. I gave you enough suggestions to find it, use them or don't, I don't care.

I have nothing to prove here, I don't care what you, or anybody ,thinks. I'll occasionally post something here that I find interesting. I don't give even half a **** if you agree, or not. You don't exist, in my world. I'm more interested in what I might decide to cook for lunch.

gordner 07-29-2021 08:02 AM

He doesn't exist on your world, well after you made the effort to respond to him anyway....then he doesn't exist, after that. Right?

wdfifteen 07-29-2021 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 11407056)
Correction of your correction: Dr Malone never claimed that he was the sole inventor of the mRNA vaccines, but rather that he is named on nine "vaccine technology platform." patents.

It was Fox that said he was The single most qualified inventor.
So he was just one of the crew?

https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-carlson-mrna-vaccine-inventor

island911 07-29-2021 08:23 AM

from your link (highlite arrows mine)

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