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island911 07-29-2021 08:26 AM

Amazing that people need to play these games to discredit a man who is CLEARLY deeply knowledgeable about vaccine safety.

Straw man building to spit a hair to throw out anything he says.

amazing.

wdfifteen 07-29-2021 08:29 AM

If he is who you say he is the Fox grossly oversold him.

I guess that’s on people who believe Fox.

javadog 07-29-2021 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gordner (Post 11407109)
He doesn't exist on your world, well after you made the effort to respond to him anyway....then he doesn't exist, after that. Right?

Poor choice of words.

He's not important. Just like you.

Better?

So sue me.

cabmandone 07-29-2021 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by island911 (Post 11407153)
Amazing that people need to play these games to discredit a man who is CLEARLY deeply knowledgeable about vaccine safety.

Straw man building to spit a hair to throw out anything he says.

amazing.

That man discredits himself by making claims of being "then inventor" of the mRNA vaccines as well as other unsupported statements.

cabmandone 07-29-2021 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11407097)
See, Nick, you just don't think. It's not that I couldn't post a link, it's just that I'd have to go digging through the history of the sites I visited yesterday or the day before, to find it. As I previously said, that's hundreds and hundreds of pages, every day. Unlike most of you, I don't have a day job, so I spend some days surfing through endless web sites and other things.

Be easier for you *******s to do a search. If Google doesn't bring it up, maybe try a search engine that doesn't manipulate search results for political reasons. I gave you enough suggestions to find it, use them or don't, I don't care.

I have nothing to prove here, I don't care what you, or anybody ,thinks. I'll occasionally post something here that I find interesting. I don't give even half a **** if you agree, or not. You don't exist, in my world. I'm more interested in what I might decide to cook for lunch.

Well, I'd think with your incredible mastery of search terms that you could find it in a hot second. But nope! Still making excuses for why you can't support some bullsh.t statement. Just admit what you said was bullsh.t and move on. It's okay to be wrong JD..

javadog 07-29-2021 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11407178)
Well, I'd think with your incredible mastery of search terms that you could find it in a hot second.

So, what's stopping you? You too dumb to search, or too lazy?

cabmandone 07-29-2021 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 11407056)
Correction of your correction: Dr Malone never claimed that he was the sole inventor of the mRNA vaccines, but rather that he is named on nine "vaccine technology platform." patents.

All this says to me (and is true when anyone says they are an inventor) is that they were part of what ever was developed. -Enough so to be listed on the patent(s).

It is disingenuous to try to discredit the man by saying; yeah, well he was not the sole inventor. - so then he's a big fat liar.

For example, Elon Musk likely has inventions for rockets. That would make him a rocket inventor. No need to jump up and down insisting that he is not THEEE rocket inventor.

ANd if Musk talks about rocket safety, I expect that he knows something about the space.

"RW Malone MD, LLC’s was co-founded and managed by Dr. Malone. The inventor of mRNA vaccines and one of world’s foremost experts on messenger mRNA therapeutics - having invented the field in 1988,"

https://www.rwmalonemd.com/

Not only did he invent the mRNA vaccines... he invented the entire f'ing field!... or so he, being the only source stating this, claims.

Sooner or later 07-29-2021 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11407178)
Well, I'd think with your incredible mastery of search terms that you could find it in a hot second. But nope! Still making excuses for why you can't support some bullsh.t statement. Just admit what you said was bullsh.t and move on. It's okay to be wrong JD..

No chit.

It is nearly impossible and a waste of time for him to find the link. Yet, he claims it would be simple for the rest of us ********s to find the same document.

Lol

cabmandone 07-29-2021 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11407190)
So, what's stopping you? You too dumb to search, or too lazy?

What are you at now, a dozen or so posts on why you can't post support for some bullsh.t statement you made? Again, just admit you were wrong JD... because you clearly are.

Sooner or later 07-29-2021 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11407193)
"RW Malone MD, LLC’s was co-founded and managed by Dr. Malone. The inventor of mRNA vaccines and one of world’s foremost experts on messenger mRNA therapeutics - having invented the field in 1988,"

https://www.rwmalonemd.com/

Not only did he invent the mRNA vaccines... he invented the entire f'ing field!... or so he, being the only source stating this, claims.


https://www.linkedin.com/in/rwmalonemd
Robert Malone
Inventor of mRNA vaccines and DNA vaccines; world-wide expert in RNA technologies RW Malone MD, LLC: Consultancy and Analytics in the Bio-sector

The inventor of the core mRNA vaccine technologies (including the idea of mRNA vaccines) and RNA transfection

cabmandone 07-29-2021 08:46 AM

"All over the news" you said... So I searched for vaccinated people having a greater viral load than unvaccinated people... NOTHIN. F'in google and your censoring ways! And damn the Duck too because it didn't turn anything up either.

cabmandone 07-29-2021 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 11407203)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/rwmalonemd
Robert Malone
Inventor of mRNA vaccines and DNA vaccines; world-wide expert in RNA technologies RW Malone MD, LLC: Consultancy and Analytics in the Bio-sector

The inventor of the core mRNA vaccine technologies (including the idea of mRNA vaccines) and RNA transfection

Yabut... He never said he was "the inventor"... Oh... wait..

Seahawk 07-29-2021 09:23 AM

So, I got the results of my Covid antibody blood test.

Remember, I have had poor reactions to every vaccine I have ever taken. My Dr. reviewed my military record and felt it best to get the LABCORP blood test.

It appears I had CV-19 but was completely asymptomatic, which did not surprise him.

https://www.labcorp.com/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/individuals/antibody-test

I have a in-person meeting with him next Wednesday to discuss my level of antibodies and a way forward.

I cannot imagine anyone getting the vaccine without knowing where they stand.

My two cents. And, BTW, I'll accept the mask but will not be getting vaccinated.

javadog 07-29-2021 09:25 AM

A good choice, in my opinion.

I'd suggest a deeper dive into the health of your immune system. Lots of ways to buttress that.

wdfifteen 07-29-2021 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 11407270)

I cannot imagine anyone getting the vaccine without knowing where they stand.

Where they stand in regard to antibodies?

cabmandone 07-29-2021 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 11407270)
So, I got the results of my Covid antibody blood test.

Remember, I have had poor reactions to every vaccine I have every taken. My Dr. reviewed my military record and felt it best to get the LABCORP blood test.

It appears I had CV-19 but was completely asymptomatic, which did not surprise him.

https://www.labcorp.com/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/individuals/antibody-test

I have a in-person meeting with him next Wednesday to discuss my level of antibodies and a way forward.

I cannot imagine anyone getting the vaccine without knowing where they stand.

My two cents. And, BTW, I'll accept the mask but will not be getting vaccinated.

I guess I didn't really care. I figured the more the merrier!

Quick question, what's the point in talking to your doc about antibodies if you're not getting the vaccine? Calculating risk ?

Seahawk 07-29-2021 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11407315)
Quick question, what's the point in talking to your doc about antibodies if you're not getting the vaccine? Calculating risk ?

It is all risk management. I was curious if I have the CV antibodies. If this CV thing goes goofy, and I believe the numbers, I would weigh the puts and takes of getting the vaccine.

I wanted a baseline number, which the Doc and I will discuss next week.

My immune system is apparently very aggressive. I am learning more, but that is why I got so sick with the flu shots in the Navy and why I didn't have to get them after tilting in flight school after the shot.

Again, I am pro-vaccine if that is your deal but can't for the life of me understand why the blood test for antibodies isn't the first step, especially now with a firm population of folks that fear the vaccine.

I get timeliness, etc. All risk management.

Seahawk 07-29-2021 11:01 AM

I did not answer the OP's question, should the vaccines be mandatory?

No.

A few reasons.

One how are people that cannot get a voter ID going to get a vaccine, and how are they going to be found or tracked?

Two. There are alternative methods now for measuring CV anti-bodies. There are many millions of people that had CV that did not know, I am one of those. If I have a level of anti-bodies commensurate with the vaccine, why should I get the vaccine. It makes zero sense.

I just wish the numbers had a basis in reality. The whole CV affair has been a CAD model of a Cluster Foxtrot and I do not see that changing.

Shaun @ Tru6 07-29-2021 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 11407412)
I did not answer the OP's question, should the vaccines be mandatory?

No.

A few reasons.

One how are people that cannot get a voter ID going to get a vaccine, and how are they going to be found or tracked?

Mobile vaccine and testing vans are going into poor neighborhoods here in Boston, that's how.

javadog 07-29-2021 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11407204)
"All over the news" you said... So I searched for vaccinated people having a greater viral load than unvaccinated people... NOTHIN. F'in google and your censoring ways! And damn the Duck too because it didn't turn anything up either.

You’re incompetent.

Listen to this:

https://rumble.com/vkfz1v-the-vaccine-causes-the-virus-to-be-more-dangerous.html

Or read the umpteen articles that result from a search that reference what he says here.

Or go find the original NBC article that I referenced.


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