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Skillet83 08-11-2021 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 11421601)
Zero Credibility

I guess the truth hurts Sooner. You can go support the big and large beautiful fatties that stink to high heaven while poo pooing articles on ZH. But, the facts are out there, Ivermectin is the real deal. Dispute this:

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/indonesia-regulator-allows-ivermectin-use-covid-treatment?fbclid=IwAR3dxjdz-MDAyGTnIjGQDZbkZa_woydXmtWl40PQHOQuz-WXufF2Zrc05G0

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/new-study-links-ivermectin-large-reductions-covid-19-deaths

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/i-dont-know-bigger-story-world-right-now-ivermectin-nytimes-best-selling-author

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/double-blind-ivermectin-study-reveals-covid-19-patients-recover-more-quickly-have-reduce

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/ivermectin-new-penicillin?ref=upstract.com&curator=upstract.com&u tm_source=upstract.com&utm_medium=web

Could it be possible that they are suppressing information?
It is sad, but not surprising that you will go down for whatever the blue machine dictates. Learn to be your own man, do some research. I have had covid twice as a 56 year old dude that does not apprecitiate large fat chicks in bikinis. I take Ivermectin, D3 along with K2, Querctein with zinc along with some C. No big deal.
You will find a way to chit all over this, but KMA. Take the jab and wear your pride flag along the way. Ivermectin works, they do not want us to have it here. Easy to purchase and dose in the states if you search.

Sooner or later 08-11-2021 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Skillet83 (Post 11421641)
I guess the truth hurts Sooner. You can go support the big and large beautiful fatties that stink to high heaven while poo pooing articles on ZH. But, the facts are out there, Ivermectin is the real deal. Dispute this:

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/indonesia-regulator-allows-ivermectin-use-covid-treatment?fbclid=IwAR3dxjdz-MDAyGTnIjGQDZbkZa_woydXmtWl40PQHOQuz-WXufF2Zrc05G0

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/new-study-links-ivermectin-large-reductions-covid-19-deaths

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/i-dont-know-bigger-story-world-right-now-ivermectin-nytimes-best-selling-author

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/double-blind-ivermectin-study-reveals-covid-19-patients-recover-more-quickly-have-reduce

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/ivermectin-new-penicillin?ref=upstract.com&curator=upstract.com&u tm_source=upstract.com&utm_medium=web

Could it be possible that they are suppressing information?
It is sad, but not surprising that you will go down for whatever the blue machine dictates. Learn to be your own man, do some research. I have had covid twice as a 56 year old dude that does not apprecitiate large fat chicks in bikinis. I take Ivermectin, D3 along with K2, Querctein with zinc along with some C. No big deal.
You will find a way to chit all over this, but KMA. Take the jab and wear your pride flag along the way. Ivermectin works, they do not want us to have it here. Easy to purchase and dose in the states if you search.

Truth? I caught them fabricating information. Here is the thread. Fabrication, that is what they do. Take a piece of accurate information, twist and distort it, add in a little fabrication. Boom!
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-politics-religion/1043475-merkel-admits-german-multiculturalism-has-utterly-failed.html

Here is what they claimed.
"Merkel faces pressure from within her CDU to take a tougher line on immigrants who don’t show a willingness to adapt to German society and her comments appeared intended to pacify her critics."

"She said too little had been required of immigrants in the past and repeated her usual line that they should learn German in order to get by in school and have opportunities on the labor market. -Reuters"

"The stunning admission comes weeks after the former director of Germany's foreign intelligence service, Dr August Hanning, suggested Merkel had created a "security crisis" in Germany due to her open-border policy. "

She made the speech in Oct 2010.

Hanning was making his speech in 2019.

Her "stunning admission that came weeks after" was actually 9 years prior.

A pack of friggin liars. Zero Credibility.

Sooner or later 08-11-2021 07:00 PM

0Why do all the contributors use pseudonyms? Are they afraid to link their real name to a pack of lies?

Who runs it? Who is Tyler Durden?
Daniel Ivandjiiski

Who is Daniel Ivandjiiski?
Investment banker. Lost his license for insider trading.

After losing his license he moved on and started Zero Credibility.
At Zero Credibility "Tyler Durden" plagiarized a report from Merrill Lynch. ML sent a cease and desist

In 2020 Zero Hedge paid a $140,000 dollar settlement to Dow Jones due to copyright infringement.

And people actually use them and defend them as a source of information

Zero Credibility

pmax 08-11-2021 07:39 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1628735903.jpg

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.31.21261387v3

Myth no longer.

Baz 08-11-2021 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 11420835)
He's the perfect celebrity for Baz, just dumber than a bag of cement.

I never heard of him before running across the video. Just thought it was funny.

But go ahead and toss another insult my way.

I've never thrown insults to anyone here. Nor on any social media.

Who does that?

People who have low self-esteem, for one.....:cool:

flatbutt 08-11-2021 09:13 PM

more fear stoking, just from the other side.

javadog 08-12-2021 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 11421775)
more fear stoking, just from the other side.

That guy might just know what he’s talking about.

Sooner or later 08-12-2021 04:49 AM

He is a guy that has made some controversial statements. Though his controversial statements weren't controversial enough for some. So they twisted what he said into really crazy stuff. Then RAIR came out and said that the super controversial people misinterpreted their controversial guy, Luc Montagnier, and defended him.

Good times! RAIR headline and the RAIR article

"Bombshell: Nobel Prize winner reveals — COVID vaccine is ‘creating variants.’"
https://rairfoundation.com/bombshell-nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/

That wasn't radical enough so it turned into...No one would actually believe this kind of really controversial stuff, would they?
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1628768372.jpg

RAIR, to the rescue!
https://rairfoundation.com/alert-luc-montagnier-did-not-say-vaccine-would-kill-people-in-two-years-heres-what-he-did-say-video/
Lies about French Virologist Luc Montagnier have been circulating online after an article posted at RAIR Foundation USA went viral. Social media activists are spreading a vicious rumor that the Nobel Laureate claimed those who take the coronavirus vaccine will be dead in two years.

The outright misrepresentation of Prof. Montagnier’s statement comes after he revealed that the coronavirus vaccine is “creating variants,” as reported at RAIR, where one can read the full transcript.

javadog 08-12-2021 05:14 AM

I find it ironic, that after the establishment has proven to have lied to us repeatedly, sometimes taking opposite sides of the same issue over time, that anybody might question someone who’s voice dares question the official dogma.

His technical credentials are such that I am willing to listen to what he has to say. I don’t give two ****s about what people think of him nor do I give two ****s about any organization at this point.

Sooner or later 08-12-2021 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11421902)
I find it ironic, that after the establishment has proven to have lied to us repeatedly, sometimes taking opposite sides of the same issue over time, that anybody might question someone who’s voice dares question the official dogma.

His technical credentials are such that I am willing to listen to what he has to say. I don’t give two ****s about what people think of him nor do I give two ****s about any organization at this point.

It ie an excellent example of how misinformation comes about and spreads. In this incident it just happened to have occurred to a non MSM source.

It happens all of the time. Many are fooled.

sugarwood 08-12-2021 02:02 PM

Gullible Facebook cult victim checklist:
  • 9/11 USA Govt inside job
  • Sandy Hook were actors
  • Moon landing was fake
  • Holocaust deniers
  • Flat Earth
  • Covid was a Chinese Bio weapon - sent to kill the USA
  • Covid was created by the Democrats / Biden to take over the country and install Martial Law
  • Covid isn’t real - CNN made it up
  • The vaccines are a bio weapon created by the democrats/Biden/Bill Gates to kill us all / mind control / infertility / give us all cancer......... at the same time
  • My Pillow guy election was hacked via China

Skillet83 08-12-2021 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 11421689)
0Why do all the contributors use pseudonyms? Are they afraid to link their real name to a pack of lies?

Who runs it? Who is Tyler Durden?
Daniel Ivandjiiski

Who is Daniel Ivandjiiski?
Investment banker. Lost his license for insider trading.

After losing his license he moved on and started Zero Credibility.
At Zero Credibility "Tyler Durden" plagiarized a report from Merrill Lynch. ML sent a cease and desist

In 2020 Zero Hedge paid a $140,000 dollar settlement to Dow Jones due to copyright infringement.

And people actually use them and defend them as a source of information

Zero Credibility

Are you saying Ivermectin is a hoax? Not effective? Nothing out there on it's effectiveness at combating C19?

upsscott 08-12-2021 05:26 PM

https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19
I hear it’s good for de-worming horses.

Sooner or later 08-12-2021 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Skillet83 (Post 11422695)
Are you saying Ivermectin is a hoax? Not effective? Nothing out there on it's effectiveness at combating C19?

It ie not the miracle drug that people claim it is.

Below is what Merck says. Merck developed it and had the patent and still sells it. It is off patent. Merck's vaccine failed so they have no horse in that race. If it was actually effective they would be pimping their product to keep vaccine money from flowing into their competitors coffers.

If doctors or hospitals truly believed it worked they could legally prescribe it off label.

https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statement-on-ivermectin-use-during-the-covid-19-pandemic/
KENILWORTH, N.J., Feb. 4, 2021 – Merck (NYSE: MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, today affirmed its position regarding use of ivermectin during the COVID-19 pandemic. Company scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 for evidence of efficacy and safety. It is important to note that, to-date, our analysis has identified:

No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.
We do not believe that the data available support the safety and efficacy of ivermectin beyond the doses and populations indicated in the regulatory agency-approved prescribing information.

Skillet83 08-12-2021 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 11422756)
It ie not the miracle drug that people claim it is.

Below is what Merck says. Merck developed it and had the patent and still sells it. It is off patent. Merck's vaccine failed so they have no horse in that race. If it was actually effective they would be pimping their product to keep vaccine money from flowing into their competitors coffers.

If doctors or hospitals truly believed it worked they could legally prescribe it off label.

https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statement-on-ivermectin-use-during-the-covid-19-pandemic/
KENILWORTH, N.J., Feb. 4, 2021 – Merck (NYSE: MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, today affirmed its position regarding use of ivermectin during the COVID-19 pandemic. Company scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 for evidence of efficacy and safety. It is important to note that, to-date, our analysis has identified:

No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.
We do not believe that the data available support the safety and efficacy of ivermectin beyond the doses and populations indicated in the regulatory agency-approved prescribing information.

SoL, I expected nothing less from you sir. You are the poster child for Dr. Fauci and the Jab patrol. You know Pfizer stated their jab loses efficacy after 6 months, new variant, new jab (booster). With the jab you can still get the virus and still spread the virus. They told us, get the jab and you cannot get covid, lie. They are going to booster your butt into a grave. Not my fault you cannot do your own research on Ivermectin.
There is so much information on it's success across the globe if you look.
I have had covid twice as a 56 y/o male. It was nothing. I dose a little Ivermectin every other day along with D3, K2, C, some Quercetin and Zinc.
You are obviously an intelligent guy, just to dismiss is a red flag. The information is out there. Why are the powers that be are suppressing this information? I already know your response will be negative, but if you search for ivermectin and covid cure, protocol, etc.. there is so much information available to the benefits, worldwide. Cheap, effective treatment and preventative care. Why chit on this?

Sooner or later 08-12-2021 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skillet83 (Post 11422779)
SoL, I expected nothing less from you sir. You are the poster child for Dr. Fauci and the Jab patrol. You know Pfizer stated their jab loses efficacy after 6 months, new variant, new jab (booster). With the jab you can still get the virus and still spread the virus. They told us, get the jab and you cannot get covid, lie. They are going to booster your butt into a grave. Not my fault you cannot do your own research on Ivermectin.
There is so much information on it's success across the globe if you look.
I have had covid twice as a 56 y/o male. It was nothing. I dose a little Ivermectin every other day along with D3, K2, C, some Quercetin and Zinc.
You are obviously an intelligent guy, just to dismiss is a red flag. The information is out there. Why are the powers that be are suppressing this information? I already know your response will be negative, but if you search for ivermectin and covid cure, protocol, etc.. there is so much information available to the benefits, worldwide. Cheap, effective treatment and preventative care. Why chit on this?

If it is so effective why isn't it being used off label? Perfectly legal. A hospital would be the toast of the town if they could show spectacular results.

Why isn't Merck pimping their product?

pavulon 08-12-2021 06:32 PM

Didn't HCQ already cure everyone?

Skillet83 08-12-2021 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 11422804)
If it is so effective why isn't it being used off label? Perfectly legal. A hospital would be the toast of the town if they could show spectacular results.

Why isn't Merck pimping their product?

You tell me. Other countries are with great success. Why is it suppressed here? Maybe Merck has an alternative goal than a cheap solution.

https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/opinion/2021-05-06-ivermectin-is-a-proven-treatment-for-covid-19-so-lets-use-it/

https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-scientist-says-covid-19-could-be-treated-for-under-1day-675612

https://www.thehealthsite.com/news/miracle-cure-for-covid-19-scientists-say-anti-parasitic-drug-ivermectin-may-be-the-key-to-ending-pandemic-812482/

https://www.cnsnews.com/index.php/article/national/susan-jones/physician-tells-senate-ivermectin-covid-wonder-drug-if-you-take-it-you

You show your colors when you will not even acknowledge a little that there may be some truth to this. I sure as hell trust farmers and ranchers a lot more that Fauci that deal with this chit year in and out. Please, now bring your next round of doom and gloom on Ivermectin and why I am full of S.

upsscott 08-12-2021 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skillet83 (Post 11422779)
SoL, I expected nothing less from you sir. You are the poster child for Dr. Fauci and the Jab patrol. You know Pfizer stated their jab loses efficacy after 6 months, new variant, new jab (booster). With the jab you can still get the virus and still spread the virus. They told us, get the jab and you cannot get covid, lie. They are going to booster your butt into a grave. Not my fault you cannot do your own research on Ivermectin.
There is so much information on it's success across the globe if you look.
I have had covid twice as a 56 y/o male. It was nothing. I dose a little Ivermectin every other day along with D3, K2, C, some Quercetin and Zinc.
You are obviously an intelligent guy, just to dismiss is a red flag. The information is out there. Why are the powers that be are suppressing this information? I already know your response will be negative, but if you search for ivermectin and covid cure, protocol, etc.. there is so much information available to the benefits, worldwide. Cheap, effective treatment and preventative care. Why chit on this?


You’ve had Covid twice? Glad to hear you’re ok so far but there’s always long haul to think about. I wear a mask when I feel I need to and I stay away from close contact an oh yeah, I got the shot. I haven’t had Covid once. You keep on trucking though.

Sooner or later 08-12-2021 07:02 PM

I said it is not a miracle drug. And it isn't. If it is so damn effective any doctor can prescribe it off label.

And I can post a long list of trials and studies that show it is ineffective.


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