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How does this happen ? Movie set death
I would think there would be safety redundancy processes in place to make sure this doesn't happen . RIP to the fallen and hopefully the person hospitalized pulls through .
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/woman-fatally-shot-prop-firearm-004512073.html
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I thought the same thing. Didn't Brandon Lee (Bruce Lee's son) die the same way? I seem to remember that Brandon's death was due to the pressure wave created by the prop gun discharge and not an actual projectile, but that may be completely incorrect.
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Day before they were doing insert shots of the gun being loaded, which required complete rounds with bullets. There was no powder in the case only a primer. One of the crew squeezed one off while putting it away, that drove the bullet into the barrel. Next day was the sound shoot with blanks which drove the bullet the rest of the way into the history books.
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What an outrageous failure of safety protocol.
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One would think an industry so outspoken on these matters would take caution to a high level. A horrific turn of events for sure.
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Seems to me a snap cap can be made to look authentic.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon-Erik_Hexum
Remember this guy? He died by an accidental self-inflicted blank cartridge gunshot to the head on the set of Cover Up.
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Wow, what a crazy turn of events. I can't even imagine how Baldwin feels. It would be one thing to kill a person intentionally in the process of defending yourself, and even that, I'm sure wouldn't be without impact to most people. But killing someone in a freak accident that you assumed was safe would be REALLY tough.
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Not having a firearms expert on site seems really stupid to me. Anyone that had access could have slipped in real ammo . I would think the last thing done before handing an actor a firearm is to make 100% sure it is unloaded with nothing stuck in the barrel . Very sad for all involved .
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I'm not sure yet but will hear much more about this today.
My initial thought is that it may turn out to be similar to the Brandon Lee incident. That involved a revolver being used for insert shots pointed directly at the camera. With a revolver you can see the bullets in the cylinder. They had the powder removed but one of the primers was still hot. Not a very loud "pop" but enough to send the bullet into the barrel. No clearing of the gun afterwards and next day a blank round sent the bullet into Brandon. This was in Wilmington, NC and there was no Armor on set. This was a period film and involves revolvers, so that's why I'm thinking a projectile was again lodged in the barrel. We always have an Armor on set whenever weapons are used here in Hollywood, I would think the same practices are followed in New Mexico. Weapons are cleaned and inspected a few times a day and the Armor is always in possession of a "hot" weapon until they roll film and it is announced that there is a "hot" weapon and then it is handed to the actor. Something broke down here and answers will come soon. I don't know if this was a low budget film, but producers are known to try and cut corners to save time and money, usually at the expense of crew safety.
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Dear Members, As many of us have already heard, there was an accidental weapons discharge on a production titled Rust being filmed in New Mexico. A live single round was accidentally fired on set by the principal actor, hitting both the Director of Photography, Local 600 member Halyna Hutchins, and Director Joel Souza. Both were rushed to the hospital. Unfortunately, we lost Sister Hutchins who passed from the wound. Local 44 has confirmed that the Props, Set Decoration, Special Effects and Construction Departments were staffed by New Mexico crew members. There were no Local 44 members on the call sheet. On behalf of Local 44’s Officers, Executive Board and Staff, our thoughts and prayers go out to Halyna and her family. We also send good thoughts to Joel and his family for a full recovery. In Solidarity, Anthony Pawluc Secretary-Treasurer IATSE Local 44
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WTF? ... A real bullet in the gun? How is that even possible on a movie set?
What a shiite show. Imagine carrying something like this for the rest of your life.
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It just boggles my mind that the gun has the capacity to fire real bullets. Further, that the prop master did not personally check every single gun before and after every scene. And to hand an actor with a gun with a live round should be criminal dereliction, reckless disregard for life and maybe manslaughter.
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