Cayman S Porsche Design Edition 1, Pro and con argument

[JackDidley]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

I while back I looked into LSD do it myself, because I have determined finding a factory unit is pretty rare.
The price was not that scary.
Not that hard to do either.

Definitely get an LSD. The lack of one was a big let down in my 08 S. Undriveable with any snow on the ground. Mine spent 3 days stuck in the yard after I backed it out of the garage with 3" of snow on the driveway.

[rusnak]

I'd probably try to duplicate an "R" without the spendy GT-3 seats. That means passive dampening and slightly lower ride height. Not hard to do with the right kit. The Ohlins kit comes with all the stuff you need.

OWP is the go-to guy on Caymans. With his advice, I put GT3 lower control arms on the front suspension. Huge improvement. I think with Vario Cam Plus variable vavle timing, the motor puts out enough bhp for most freeway driving. You run out of power in the hills, however. Two stage induction made way for the IPD plenum. I see no reason to not have free flow all the time.

I don't know about torque vectoring, but the "ABD or Anti lock Brake Differential" feature really works. You can feel it keeping the car going straight in the rain.

[aschen]

As an aside, shame on you porsche. LSD standard on miata and subaru brz but rare and expensive on a cayman s.

[rusnak]

Originally Posted by masraum

I love those wheels, sort of a skeleton 5-star, but my car came with 19". If I was going to make any change, it would probably be to 18". I think they would handle as good, but be a bit more comfy on crappy roads. I think the tires would be a bit cheaper too.

I was thinking you had the spyder side intake grills for some reason. That must be someone else.

I definitely love the sport chrono throttle remap. I think it's primarily a change at low RPM, so most noticeable in parking lots or pulling away from a stop.

If you've got a tune, it may not be noticeable at all. I'm not sure if they tune the standard mode or sport mode or both.

I've been thinking about your comment re the Ohlins being too harsh for the street. I think a lot of that is due to the tire sidewall. The fronts are definitely harsh, but I noticed that the rear is perfect, at least for me. I now have to wonder if putting a higher profile tire on the front might make the entire package the perfect compromise tor the street. OTOH, I don't think I really want to tune the suspension for the worst road conditions (expansion joints). My 911 3.2 with RSR struts and coilovers and Bilstein valving was the shizzle. I need to get that car back on the road. It's been sitting for way too long.

[rusnak]

Here's the factory build
sheet on my 987.2

[masraum]

Originally Posted by aschen

As an aside, shame on you porsche. LSD standard on miata and subaru brz but rare and expensive on a cayman s.

I think with the rear weight bias it's not a big deal. And designing for the average Joe they probably didn't want to induce understeer by adding LSD.

I like (at least in my old miata) the handling behavior with LSD.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by rusnak

Here's the factory build
sheet on my 987.2

very nice!

[look 171]

Originally Posted by rusnak

I'd probably try to duplicate an "R" without the spendy GT-3 seats. That means passive dampening and slightly lower ride height. Not hard to do with the right kit. The Ohlins kit comes with all the stuff you need.

OWP is the go-to guy on Caymans. With his advice, I put GT3 lower control arms on the front suspension. Huge improvement. I think with Vario Cam Plus variable vavle timing, the motor puts out enough bhp for most freeway driving. You run out of power in the hills, however. Two stage induction made way for the IPD plenum. I see no reason to not have free flow all the time.

I don't know about torque vectoring, but the "ABD or Anti lock Brake Differential" feature really works. You can feel it keeping the car going straight in the rain.

I grew south of that fwy 20 min to the entrance of Angeles Crest Raceway so I know every inch of that road. I had they my S up there more then I like to admit but never once I felt it lacking power before and after the tune. Yep, plenty for the fwy. The only time was at Willow. Coming out of a right hand turn, up hill, I was on the floor and they guy in front just walked away form me. It felt like I was dragging an anchor. I think I know the issue there. I was chasing a 991S and I am not as good driver as he was. After two laps, I couldn't catch him anymore. I hear great things about the GT# front end.

The Ohlins are great with smaller imperfections on the road even expansion joints. Its the larger ones that send me flying off my seat at speed of 80+. The tune and all the other go fast bolt on parts was a good improvement on both power and shift points especially.

[look 171]

I can't seem to get 26 mpg on mine. 22 I think was max., then again, I like to depress that pedal a bit.

[aschen]

Finally pulled the trigger on a cayman. 18 GTS 6mt 12k miles

About the same price as a 981 gts that would be at least 2 years older and have more miles and not modern tech so I made a compromise on the glorious flat 6 sound.

The 2.5T 4 is strong though. About as fast as a 996 turbo if you look at the numbers. It is raucous and snorty at low rpm and smooth pulls strong at high rpm. Sounds good to me and has alot of character, but I get why traditional purists prefer the flat 6 Wail.

[afterburn 549]

Pix !!
Pix!! ^^^^^^^

[aschen]

Lets see if I can make it work this time. Really didnt want white, grey, or black.

Red wasnt my first choice but pickings are slim when manual is prerequisite. The red is growing on me. GTS trim is a good fit for me as well.

[afterburn 549]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Very nice !!!!!!!!!!!

[astrochex]

Sweet! Those wheels look great.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by look 171

I can't seem to get 26 mpg on mine. 22 I think was max., then again, I like to depress that pedal a bit.

I can max out a car, for a bit, but eventually my right foot tells me to effe off and mpg plummets.

Life's too short to hypermile a fun car or deal with the other morons on the road (right pedal is the "buh, bye, moron" pedal)

[afterburn 549]

I have a zero for a clue why a so-called sports car enthusiast would be trying to get gas mileage...' Status quo maybe?
As they have zero understanding of the romance involved?

[JackDidley]

Originally Posted by aschen

Lets see if I can make it work this time. Really didnt want white, grey, or black.

Red wasnt my first choice but pickings are slim when manual is prerequisite. The red is growing on me. GTS trim is a good fit for me as well.

Looks great. Would not change a thing.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by aschen

Lets see if I can make it work this time. Really didnt want white, grey, or black.

Red wasnt my first choice but pickings are slim when manual is prerequisite. The red is growing on me. GTS trim is a good fit for me as well.

Nice, red w/black wheels is a good look. What's the interior color, black?

GTS, all of the bells and whistles, including all of the performance stuff, I believe, right!?!

[aschen]

Thanks Y'all

Yeah GTS has most of what you want from a performance perspective: sports seats, LSD with torque vectoring, Pasm, dual mode exaust, interior is mostly greyish alcantara with black trim. We will see how that holds up but pretty mint at 12k miles.

Oh yeah sport chrono too, but I have literally no idea what that does.......yet.

Also slightly bigger turbo with a bit more power over the S and a 3rd radiator.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by aschen

Thanks Y'all

Yeah GTS has most of what you want from a performance perspective: sports seats, LSD with torque vectoring, Pasm, dual mode exaust, interior is mostly greyish alcantara with black trim. We will see how that holds up but pretty mint at 12k miles.

Oh yeah sport chrono too, but I have literally no idea what that does.......yet.

Also slightly bigger turbo with a bit more power over the S and a 3rd radiator.

Sport seats - awesome
LSD with torque vectoring - awesome
PASM - I like it
PSE - awesome

Alcantara being synthetic is supposed to hold up pretty well, I believe.

Sport Chrono: you have PASM, PSE, so the sport chrono button will enable both with one button push (stiffer handling and louder exhaust). Since you've got a manual vs PDK, the other main thing that Sport Chrono does is remap your gas pedal. In "regular" mode, the gas pedal is a little "soft" at low throttle openings, which makes it a bit easier to toodle around in parking lots and a little easier to stall if not paying attention. In sport mode, the throttle is more aggressive at low throttle openings.

I don't know that I've ever seen a graph, but if I had to imagine what it might look like based on feel, it feels like the graph below. You don't get more power, the delivery is just different. It also (at least, in my '08) also changes the behavior of the rev-limiter. Of course, being Porsche, I'm sure the remapping of the throttle pedal is probably a lot more nuanced than the graph. If you've got PDK, it also remaps the tranny behavior and shift speed.