A solution to bad behavior in the air

[911 Rod]

Originally Posted by masraum

Just open the door and throw them out. It's going to suck whether you're on the tarmac 12 feet up or at 35k feet.

Problem solved.

I thought this was going to be the solution from the OP.
See ya bucko!!

[KFC911]

Open the door at 35K and see who doesn't suck !

[Deschodt]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

One bag, backpack-sized, is all you can bring onboard per person. That is it. The rest is checked baggage.

80% of the problems are solved....see you at the carousel.

The other 20% of the problems are alcohol related.

Absolutely...for faster boarding and deplaning...Also how about boarding by Window, center, then Aisle to speed things up and minimize shuffling?
Slightly wider seats & no reclining would cut on other triggers too.

On a recent flight I had to help a lady heave up her huge luggage, and I'm sorry, aside from doing the polite thing, I was thinking "if you can't lift it, don't take it to the cabin".
The other thought was that the flight attendant's a$$ should not be wider than the aisle and whack every passenger going up and down the plane...

[matthewb0051]

Originally Posted by Deschodt

Absolutely...for faster boarding and deplaning...Also how about boarding by Window, center, then Aisle to speed things up and minimize shuffling?
Slightly wider seats & no reclining would cut on other triggers too.

On a recent flight I had to help a lady heave up her huge luggage, and I'm sorry, aside from doing the polite thing, I was thinking "if you can't lift it, don't take it to the cabin".
The other thought was that the flight attendant's a$$ should not be wider than the aisle and whack every passenger going up and down the plane...

^^^^^
Rules that I totally believe and adhere to. Incredibly frustrating waiting on people to board plane and put their crap in the bins. Worse still is when they can't lift the crap they brought on board and EXPECT help.

If the flight attendants need fire proof pantyhose because their thighs rub together they shouldn't be trying to fit down the aisle.

[matthewb0051]

One of my daughter's fav movies View from the Top. Flight attendant training

[matthewb0051]

From the same film

[911_Dude]

A quick Goog search:

Just refuse to wear a mask- $3000

Interfering with a crewmember, which is a pretty broad definition:

Penalties
Assault. Assaulting a crewmember is punishable by up to 20 years' imprisonment, and a fine of up to $250,000. If a dangerous weapon is used, the defendant can be imprisoned for life.

(18 U.S.C. § 3571, 49 U.S.C. § 46504.)

Interference. The maximum civil penalty for interfering with a crewmember is a fine of up to $25,000. (49 U.S.C. § 46318.)

[herr_oberst]

Originally Posted by masraum

Just open the door and throw them out. It's going to suck whether you're on the tarmac 12 feet up or at 35k feet.

Problem solved.

Fast loss of pressure doesn't discriminate, unfortunately.

[Steve Carlton]

This is exactly how it works...

[911 Rod]

Originally Posted by herr_oberst

Fast loss of pressure doesn't discriminate, unfortunately.

You do realize we were kidding?

[herr_oberst]

Originally Posted by 911 Rod

You do realize we were kidding?

No, no I didn't.
I honestly thought that throwing people out of an airplane at 35000 feet was normal.

[javadog]

Originally Posted by URY914

I believe they pretty much get added to the no fly list as standard procedure.

I've seen the videos too and can't figure out why some people go bad-**** crazy about following the rules for the next 1-2 hours of a flight.

Because they are acting as they always do, and their normal life. Some of these people or simply poorly raised, ignorant little *******s that have no respect for any authority, or any rules.

Watching any old episode of Cops, if you see a car called to an apartment house for a domestic dispute, you’ll see this behavior every time. Nine times out of 10 it’s a fat young woman.

[URY914]

Originally Posted by javadog

Because they are acting as they always do, and their normal life. Some of these people or simply poorly raised, ignorant little *******s that have no respect for any authority, or any rules.

Watching any old episode of Cops, if you see a car called to an apartment house for a domestic dispute, you’ll see this behavior every time. Nine times out of 10 it’s a fat young woman.

Why am I not surprised by your over generalized response to who does these things?
Plenty of videos show middle aged skinny men and women who seem to think the rules don't apply to them, but you can believe what you want.

[javadog]

Originally Posted by URY914

Why am I not surprised by your over generalized response to who does these things?
Plenty of videos show middle aged skinny men and women who seem to think the rules don't apply to them, but you can believe what you want.

Sounds like I’ve watched more episodes of Cops than you have.

I’m aware than *******s come in all shapes and sizes and every other characteristic.

There are a few demographics that are over represented in these problems. That’s all I’m gonna say.

Things are different in Florida, man.

That has a familiar ring to it.

[group911@aol.co]

It typically takes a lot of flack for the crew to get fed up enough to recommend a passenger be put on a do not fly list.
Unfortunately, that list is only on that airline. The "do not fly" should include any and all airlines. Period.
Zero tolerance

[Seahawk]

Air travel has been a roast, a least in steerage, for a long time.

One of the gals I dated in flight school was also a flight student. She had been a flight attendant and decided to move up front and move the sticks. She is still flying for one of the majors, set to retire in a few years.

She went to the CH-46 RAG in San Diego and a lot her flight attendant friends lived in the area and flew out of Lindbergh. Their stories were unbelievable, even back in the 80's.

After 9/11, so much changed that made the whole commercial flight experience a complete grind and the TSA and the airlines have all been complicit, including charging for luggage which has people trying to take more crap into the cabin area than Hannibal took over the Alps.

I also know a number of airline pilots and they tell me everyone is on edge, "you can sense it..."

Since I live two hours from the nearest large airport, I'll drive rather than fly if the drive is ten hours or less. It pencils out, trust me. I have at various times flown 3 times a month, often 4. I know all the tricks and efficiencies, how to best navigate the entire experience, trust me, but I hate it. I will be flying to Tucson in January, flying for the forst time in years. I am trying to arrange meetings accross the country so I can drive

Some the recommendation in this thread I had not considered but have been spot on.

[berettafan]

Originally Posted by Jims5543

There was another thread on this subject and I said the same thing there I will say here.

Charge Greyhound prices for plane seats and this is what you get.

The lowest common denominator is now flying, there is no more elegance in air travel.

Helped by stimulus and unemployment money paid out in a BIG way.

Daniel Tosh did a bit where he said 'i apologize for ticket prices but i don't want to perform in front of people who could only afford to pay $10 to get in'.

[URY914]

Originally Posted by javadog

Sounds like I’ve watched more episodes of Cops than you have.

Probably true. I mostly watch PBS.

[javadog]

Originally Posted by URY914

Probably true. I mostly watch PBS.

You still studying your dad’s National Geographic magazines, too?

[group911@aol.co]

Wider seats is something you hear a lot of today but the fact is that, at least on the 737 workhorse, the dimensions of the fuselage width, which determines the available space for seats, hasn't changed since they started building it. Seems the people complaining the most about it should look in the mirror more often.

Originally Posted by Deschodt

Absolutely...for faster boarding and deplaning...Also how about boarding by Window, center, then Aisle to speed things up and minimize shuffling?
Slightly wider seats & no reclining would cut on other triggers too.

On a recent flight I had to help a lady heave up her huge luggage, and I'm sorry, aside from doing the polite thing, I was thinking "if you can't lift it, don't take it to the cabin".
The other thought was that the flight attendant's a$$ should not be wider than the aisle and whack every passenger going up and down the plane...