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L8Brakr 06-03-2022 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ted (Post 11708384)
Cost would go down per foot if they made F1 cars smaller, improves racing/passing?
Save all the historic sidewalks of Monaco from race track improvements too.

I believe costs would indeed go down.

Seems that all the hybrid/regen/battery technology is what adds weight, size, and complexity, ie. costs. Sure......safety structures/crush zones have added some size, but I don't think that is the majority factor (as shown by IndyCar).

A car who's only power source is the combustion engine should be significantly smaller/lighter. The FIA could still maintain enviro-sensitivity by mandating a synthetic/renewable fuel.

I'll defer to the Captain if I'm wrong.

herr_oberst 06-07-2022 05:32 PM

Just because it's beautiful to watch...
 
No commentary, just the feed and timing.

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astrochex 06-08-2022 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 11711963)
No commentary, just the feed and timing.

Glorious! Thank-you for sharing.

Looks like a Minardi at the end.

Rtrorkt 06-08-2022 05:49 AM

Interesting Ferrari story.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/61722606

Reg 06-09-2022 03:05 PM

Baku is awesome. Whoooowhoooooo.

yellowperil 06-10-2022 07:47 AM

Alfa's new colors, I like
 
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1654875931.jpg

oldE 06-12-2022 07:30 AM

Anyone interested in a couple of used Ferrari engines?
At least the boys in scarlet got an early start on packing up for the trip to Montreal.
George Russell spoke well when he said, first you must finish.

Maybe next weekend.

Best
Les

Deschodt 06-12-2022 03:20 PM

Baku is usually fun, but not this time... So, yawn, Verstappen world champion. Ferrari imploding as usual.
The only surprise this season is Russell handing his a$$ to Hamilton, consistently, and Mercedes still not having come back. Porpoising looks painful.

Eric Hahl 06-13-2022 07:03 AM

Perez was off to a great start and fast all weekend. Sad to see him miss out on a 2 fer.

RBNetEngr 06-13-2022 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deschodt (Post 11715932)
Baku is usually fun, but not this time... So, yawn, Verstappen world champion. Ferrari imploding as usual.
The only surprise this season is Russell handing his a$$ to Hamilton, consistently, and Mercedes still not having come back. Porpoising looks painful.


Hamilton had quite a difficult time climbing out of the car at the end of the race, and he was walking very stiffly, with his back causing problems.

Montreal is probably gonna suck for Mercedes as well, as they were saying the track will be bumpy like Baku. But Mercedes seems to have addressed their pace issues. They aren’t front row fast, but definitely the fastest of the mid-pack.


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rusnak 06-13-2022 02:27 PM

^ LOL! Hamilton always has to make such a show of his "suffering". He requires so much special handling by Toto, it's ridiculous.

mocha07 06-13-2022 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 11716686)
^ LOL! Hamilton always has to make such a show of his "suffering". He requires so much special handling by Toto, it's ridiculous.


He has his Trainer trailing around,some sort of masseuse???

rusnak 06-13-2022 07:38 PM

^ Oh, you mean his paid mummy? Her job is to tell him that he's great and always right.

berettafan 06-14-2022 02:40 AM

So what was the reason so many F engines took a dump?

oldE 06-14-2022 03:00 AM

I suspect the folks in Maranello are beginning to figure that out about now.

Best
Les

CurtEgerer 06-14-2022 03:40 AM

According to Binotto: Ferrari prefers fast unreliable F1 car rather than other way around.

I guess that's one way to look at it :D

berettafan 06-14-2022 03:59 AM

Thought it would be interesting to hear some guesses from commentators but strangely they made no such effort that i heard. maybe oil pump or cooling not adequate at lower rpms and streets courses possibly mean more time at said low rpms?

Thought the duct tape wing fix was awesome. Commentators were horrified and convinced multiple deaths and mayhem would ensue.

oldE 06-14-2022 04:26 AM

Baku is not a low rpm race .about 2/3s of the lap is full throttle.
I watched the race on F1 and their commentators thought the race stewards were being overly cautious.

Everybody has an opinion.

Best
Les

ted 06-14-2022 07:42 AM

I like Martin’s quote on bouncing and Christmas turkeys. lol

“I think the team (Mercedes) are playing this quite hard in that they want some changes made, the drivers want some changes made, because the Mercedes is particularly bad,” Brundle told Sky Sports News.

“The teams that have got it sorted out are clearly saying that’s Mercedes’ problem, it’s not Formula 1’s problem.

“Of course, the team can fix it by raising the car but then they lose a huge amount of performance. They have had to sacrifice comfort for performance and what’s surprising really is Mercedes can’t seem to get a handle on what actually looks like quite an excellent car if they could just unlock it.

“I think Christian is saying more or less exactly the same as what I’m saying, it’s a problem for the teams to sort out.

“It needs managing, but to ask the other teams to change the regulations to help Mercedes is a bit like asking a turkey to vote for Christmas.

“But I’m not underplaying what George Russell and Lewis Hamilton are going through because it does look particularly painful and the Ferrari drivers, just at their crucial braking points, that just looks plain tricky to me – I don’t know how they go into the corners, frankly.”

Deschodt 06-15-2022 04:59 PM

Latest strong rumor - Piastri will replace Latifi after the Canadian GP. Supposedly a done deal - they let him run at home and poof…

matthewb0051 06-16-2022 06:12 AM

[QUOTE=RBNetEngr;11716663]Hamilton had quite a difficult time climbing out of the car at the end of the race, and he was walking very stiffly, with his back causing problems.
/QUOTE]

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Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 11716686)
^ LOL! Hamilton always has to make such a show of his "suffering". He requires so much special handling by Toto, it's ridiculous.

My wife would call that "loser's limp"

matthewb0051 06-16-2022 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mocha07 (Post 11716870)
He has his Trainer trailing around,some sort of masseuse???

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 11716937)
^ Oh, you mean his paid mummy? Her job is to tell him that he's great and always right.

And to carry mass amounts of stuff that other physios do not carry for other drivers. Honestly, they should just call her his 'personal assistant'.

Deschodt 06-16-2022 03:17 PM

So the FIA intervened "in the name of safety", there's a new technical directive...
If I read these articles right, they're gonna measure the bouncing and if it's too severe (over a set limit), force the teams to increase ride height (and therefore lose performance). So in a way it's not a bad thing, teams who did the job right will not lose their advantage (and be able to ride lower and have more downforce)... Those who porpoised or bottomed out too much will likely get a ride height penalty and a degradation in performance... Probably not what Mercedes had in mind when they started this campaign...

It's pouring buckets of rain in Canada right now!

matthewb0051 06-17-2022 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deschodt (Post 11719408)
So the FIA intervened "in the name of safety", there's a new technical directive...
If I read these articles right, they're gonna measure the bouncing and if it's too severe (over a set limit), force the teams to increase ride height (and therefore lose performance). So in a way it's not a bad thing, teams who did the job right will not lose their advantage (and be able to ride lower and have more downforce)... Those who porpoised or bottomed out too much will likely get a ride height penalty and a degradation in performance... Probably not what Mercedes had in mind when they started this campaign...

It's pouring buckets of rain in Canada right now!

Heard Christian Horner discuss this in FP1 or 2 today. Basically his position is this is garbage and will adversely impact the teams that have gotten it right and are not experiencing the issue. His version was different than yours. It sounds like an across the board mandate, so if one team is suffering then all will have to do the same thing to 'fix'.

I found myself agreeing with him.

Deschodt 06-17-2022 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matthewb0051 (Post 11720316)
Heard Christian Horner discuss this in FP1 or 2 today. Basically his position is this is garbage and will adversely impact the teams that have gotten it right and are not experiencing the issue. His version was different than yours. It sounds like an across the board mandate, so if one team is suffering then all will have to do the same thing to 'fix'.

I found myself agreeing with him.

Horner sure likes to whine but it makes no sense here… if you bounce too much the FIA will make you raise the ride height. So since Redbull seems ok they’ll likely be left alone. Mercedes may be forced to raise the car and lose even more downforce. Seemed to me Mercedes shot themselves in the foot or the ruling didn’t play into their hands anyway… maybe I got it wrong.

Either way this w/e is just for data gathering - so no action will be taken.

Captain Ahab Jr 06-18-2022 01:23 PM

Wow, just wow!!! :eek:

Going to be interesting 1st corner tomorrow :cool:

rfuerst911sc 06-18-2022 01:29 PM

I am happy for Haas and specifically Mick . Hopefully both cars can get points tomorrow . Felt bad for Norris but decent run for Danny Ric . Albon showing some speed . Tomorrow could be a great show.

stealthn 06-18-2022 03:15 PM

Should be an interesting Elbows Out turn one tomorrow

astrochex 06-18-2022 04:01 PM

There will only be drama with weather. The pole sitter will have a nice Sunday drive.

ted 06-18-2022 08:06 PM

At the start Alonso will use the first corner over run to keep second.

rfuerst911sc 06-19-2022 02:24 AM

If Alonso can pull off an amazing launch off the grid the first turn could be critical . Max has much more to lose than Alonso . Think big picture . But if Max gets the lead see ya later bye 😁

URY914 06-19-2022 03:36 AM

Doesn't Alonzo get tired of everyone referring to him as "old"? The interviewer after qually said something twice about his age.

herr_oberst 06-19-2022 06:12 AM

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1005978/1/was-grid-when-alonso-last-qualified-front-row

rfuerst911sc 06-19-2022 06:31 AM

Looks like the forecast is a dry race . That in itself changes the race setups . They didn't get any dry running so what tire do you start the race with ? Looking forward to watching this one .

ted 06-19-2022 07:46 AM

They did run in the dry in Practice.
Half second delta from medium to soft.
I say Alonso on soft and Max on Medium.
Sainz and Perez on soft.

Neilk 06-19-2022 08:51 AM

I am afraid Max is going to run away with it. Alonso's car was probably setup to maximize qualifying performance in the wet, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him and Haas fall back pretty quickly. I hope that's not the case. Maybe someone will punt Max at at the start and drop him to the back to last. That would make for a really interesting race.

oldE 06-19-2022 09:53 AM

Neil, their setup for practice had to be basically the same as for the race.

Best
Les

oldE 06-20-2022 02:11 AM

Once again George finishes within the top 5.

Leclerc's moves on the two Alpines were masterful.

Last ten laps were riveting.

Best
Les

GH85Carrera 06-20-2022 04:05 AM

I was on vacation staying in hotels for two weekends. My DVR at home recorded all the action. I got back, and had to skip the practices and qualifying, but I watched the two races. I did catch the comment Hamilton made, his car was undrivable and the worst car he has ever driven around the track. Yet he came in third. I guess he is just too used to the very best and way better than all others car on track. It is nice to see him struggle in a very average car.

Amazing to see Alonzo, and the Haas cars up in the front. Haas did the usual fail in the race. No I need to watch the Le Mans race, and get caught up on several work project, and all the other post vacation stuff.

oldE 06-20-2022 05:30 AM

Glen, Mercedes was chasing different set ups with Lewis's and George's cars on Friday. For qualifying and the race they went with their "Best guess" with George running more wing than Lewis.
I suspect if Sergio's car hadn't broken ( likely due to his off in Q2) there would have been no podium for Lewis.

Best
Les


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