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450knotOffice 09-24-2022 12:54 PM

Those are points for a season long championship/placing, not per race.

Captain Ahab Jr 09-24-2022 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CurtEgerer (Post 11806078)
I don't understand the system at all. Max points = 40. Herta has 7 Indycar wins in the last 3 years = 280 points. This year, the Andretti cars were pretty much a disaster. The article says you need 40 points in the past 3 years for a Super License. What am I missing?

Also, the points system is heavily biased to F2 (or biased against Indycar) depending on how you look at it.

Points are for championship finish positions not race finish positions, race wins would be too easy

I'd agree F2 has more bias than Indy but the full F2 calendar is run only on F1 circuits

F2 and F3 are traditionally the stepping stones towards F1 and both are FIA sanctioned so no surprise there is more bias towards F2

Herta has 32 points and 40 are required, quite a few points shy, due to COVID he was even given an extra year to earn enough points

There is still a slim chance Herta is racing in F1 next year, I read he may compete in the Formula Regional Asian Championship which finishes on the 2nd week of Feb.

CurtEgerer 09-24-2022 01:30 PM

Got it. Thanks. So if F2 and Indycar points were awarded equally, he'd have 71 points. + he's won the Daytona 24 Hr twice. Oh well, not going to happen.

GH85Carrera 09-26-2022 05:41 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1664199579.jpg

Weird looking track. I guess for a street circuit, options are limited. I just want to find out how business as usual can go on for the non race fans at the hotels inside the track.

Noah930 09-26-2022 05:56 PM

That's a terrible looking track. Turn 1 is a hairpin? That's gonna be a disaster on the first lap. Or maybe that's the intent. Maybe T5 is a passing opportunity. The serpentine run from T5-9 should be enjoyable to drive, but it'll be tough to pass or set up a pass going into 9. The long straight into 11-12 will give a good passing opportunity. There are 2 "driving" parts of the track, T1-4 (which will be slow) and T5-9. The rest of it's pretty much point and shoot. But yeah, not a particularly pretty looking track.

Reg 09-26-2022 06:10 PM

The guy in the lead of current F2 - am I reading it correctly that he is the only driver this season to compete at each event? I’m thinking that entire series needs help. Maybe the third driver for each f1 team gets a ride to help with comparisons/publicity/interest?

rfuerst911sc 09-27-2022 05:02 AM

Alfa Romeo has extended Zhou's contract for one year . Only seats left are Haas/Williams/Alpine .

rfuerst911sc 09-30-2022 07:20 AM

Several F1 websites are stating that DeVries has signed a deal with Alpha Tauri . That then allows Gasly to sign with Alpine to be announced next week .

rusnak 09-30-2022 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11807210)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1664199579.jpg

Weird looking track. I guess for a street circuit, options are limited. I just want to find out how business as usual can go on for the non race fans at the hotels inside the track.

A pack of F1 cars flying down the Strip would be a spectacle to the average non-racing TV viewer. And what a great advertising show for Las Vegas. I think actual racing is probably not a driving factor in this event.

yellowperil 09-30-2022 10:15 AM

I hope K Mag can hold on to fastest lap at Singapore 2018 at 141.905

Noah930 09-30-2022 06:17 PM

My son just showed me a revision to the Vegas track design. Now, instead of T6 being a flowing double-apex left hander, the second half of the corner will feature a chicane. That's terrible. Take the one flowing part of the track (T5-9), and mess it up with a fiddly chicane.

red 928 09-30-2022 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by red 928 (Post 11788437)
Wolff speaking to Domenicali in the pits today:

OK it worked against ferrari,
what other rules can we change now to make
verstappen as slow as mercedes?

Atta boy, we should have never doubted you.

He can go as fast as he wants,
we'll just steal the trophies from him after!

Quote:


‘Red Bull significantly exceeded the cap in 2021, rivals demand severe penalties’


“According to their calculations, Red Bull not only exceeded the limit in 2021, but also this season.”

Right now, though, the only numbers anyone knows – or at least the FIA knows – is 2021’s and that was the year Red Bull beat Mercedes to the Drivers’ Championship title in what the Brackley squad still feels was a stolen World Championship.

“If the direct opponent should now also have obtained an unfair technical advantage, it would be the last straw,” adds AMuS’s Michael Schmidt.

“Under this assumption, the additional money not only flowed into the 2021 car, but also into the development of the 2022 model,” he added, “which would explain why Red Bull had such a strong start to the season despite allegedly being the last team to switch.

“So anyone who breaks the budget would have a double win. In the current fiscal year and thereafter.”

https://www.planetf1.com/news/red-bull-significantly-exceeded-cap-2021-rumour/

rfuerst911sc 10-01-2022 06:58 AM

That was an interesting qualyfying session . Congrats to the pole winner . Let's hope for a good race tomorrow . Did RB screw up Max's fuel load ? He was on a flyer then told to box .

yellowperil 10-01-2022 12:01 PM

Mercedes 25,000 euros less on hand today

rfuerst911sc 10-01-2022 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by yellowperil (Post 11811757)
Mercedes 25,000 euros less on hand today

Hamilton nose ring penalty ? I read something about his snoz apparel might be an issue .

GH85Carrera 10-01-2022 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 11811576)
That was an interesting qualyfying session . Congrats to the pole winner . Let's hope for a good race tomorrow . Did RB screw up Max's fuel load ? He was on a flyer then told to box .

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Originally Posted by yellowperil (Post 11811757)
Mercedes 25,000 euros less on hand today

It was an interesting and exciting qualifying as a fan, I bet is was a real butt puckering lap for the drivers.

And Mercedes and Hamilton will go broke in a few thousand years with those 25 Grand penalties if they keep getting them every race.

I assume FIA figures a piece of metal stuck through body parts is not a safe thing in fires or crashes. Just make Hamilton sign a release in public, with fans and the press watching saying he assumes all responsibility for any injury caused by a body piercing. That way he can't sue if some unfortunate accident is worsened by his piercing. He knows the risk, and his jewelry is more important to him than his safety. It sure will not harm anyone else. Let him take the risk on his own, and no possibility to sue.

yellowperil 10-02-2022 03:38 AM

Heavy rain right now close to start time, may not see a race at all by look of this

rfuerst911sc 10-02-2022 03:57 AM

Rain has stopped and track cleanup has started . May be a time limited race .

Noah930 10-02-2022 07:15 AM

Nice drive by Checo. He won it in the drag to the first corner, but then he didn't make any serious mistakes the rest of the time. Even Lewis and Max did in the slippery conditions.

rfuerst911sc 10-02-2022 07:30 AM

Great drive by Checo . Horrible race for Alpine and Williams . Just a matter of time before Max wraps up the championship . Was pleased to see Danny Ric with a solid race result .

RBNetEngr 10-02-2022 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 11811576)
That was an interesting qualyfying session . Congrats to the pole winner . Let's hope for a good race tomorrow . Did RB screw up Max's fuel load ? He was on a flyer then told to box .


During the three-week break, Red Bull engineers attended a Race Management Strategy conference hosted by Ferrari…lol

Paul K 10-02-2022 07:52 AM

Our DVR (Dish Network) didn’t record the race. Anyone else experience this? It can’t even find ESPN now. BLOODY HELL!

GH85Carrera 10-02-2022 11:00 AM

Wow, what a hard race for the drivers.

The long rain delay and then all the safety cars. Congrats to the winner, he for sure drove the best race of his life. When drivers like Hamilton whack the barrier, and Max way overcooks a braking point he just drove like a pro. And Ferrari managed to NOT shoot themselves in the foot.

The race started over an hour late because of the rain. My DVR recorded in just fine, but I did add 3 hours to the end of the race to be 100% sure it was going to record it all. Of course just as they are about to start interviews ESPN pulled the plug. Likely to show the high school cornhole championship games or a replay of the women's tennis match from 1991.

David 10-02-2022 11:54 AM

Good race but pretty weird how the track is so slow to dry.

I’ve been very pleased with YouTubeTV. It records everything I ask it to plus other things it thinks I want to. If a race i usually watch is on a channel I didn’t pick it still records it.

rfuerst911sc 10-02-2022 03:25 PM

Checo gets a 5 second penalty for not being close enough to the pace car . WTF over ? But gets to keep his win .

GH85Carrera 10-02-2022 03:58 PM

He had over a 6 second lead.

Ronbo 10-02-2022 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul K (Post 11812187)
Our DVR (Dish Network) didn’t record the race. Anyone else experience this? It can’t even find ESPN now. BLOODY HELL!

F1TV is the answer.

WPOZZZ 10-02-2022 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul K (Post 11812187)
Our DVR (Dish Network) didn’t record the race. Anyone else experience this? It can’t even find ESPN now. BLOODY HELL!

Dish has a contract dispute with Disney.

stealthn 10-02-2022 09:00 PM

That track stinks, also shows you without DRS, F1 is just a train from qualifying to race…

David Inc. 10-03-2022 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 11812315)
Good race but pretty weird how the track is so slow to dry.

I’ve been very pleased with YouTubeTV. It records everything I ask it to plus other things it thinks I want to. If a race i usually watch is on a channel I didn’t pick it still records it.

Nighttime so no sun to dry and it was very humid.

Sucked hard for racing.

GH85Carrera 10-03-2022 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by David Inc. (Post 11812662)
Nighttime so no sun to dry and it was very humid.

Sucked hard for racing.

But watching it was exciting.

Like the qualifying, that had to be exceptionally hard for the drivers and made for good watching from the fans. I can't imagine pushing to the limits on a wet track, with concrete walls just inches from the edge of the track.

Yea, the track sucks and there will always be multiple safety car sessions. Personally, I did not miss that track over the last few years when it was not on the schedule. I honestly prefer the traditional tracks.

However, Vegas next year should be spectacular. This year's Miami race was pitiful, racing in a parking lot is as silly as the fake marina they built.

David Inc. 10-03-2022 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11812673)
But watching it was exciting.

Like the qualifying, that had to be exceptionally hard for the drivers and made for good watching from the fans. I can't imagine pushing to the limits on a wet track, with concrete walls just inches from the edge of the track.

Yea, the track sucks and there will always be multiple safety car sessions. Personally, I did not miss that track over the last few years when it was not on the schedule. I honestly prefer the traditional tracks.

However, Vegas next year should be spectacular. This year's Miami race was pitiful, racing in a parking lot is as silly as the fake marina they built.

It had its moments for sure, but watching faster cars languish behind cars ahead because they simply couldn't race off line really took the edge off of things.

URY914 10-03-2022 07:13 AM

Every year they need to pick a race and spread a little oil on a few corners without the driver's knowledge just to keep them on their toes. .

matthewb0051 10-03-2022 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11812293)
Of course just as they are about to start interviews ESPN pulled the plug. Likely to show the high school cornhole championship games or a replay of the women's tennis match from 1991.

Every time Nicole Briscoe comes on and says, "thank you for watching the F1 Grand Prix" of blablabla. I say out loud, now F you and we are switching to something we already had on the schedule and we really don't want to commit to F1.

Yesterday, I'm sure ESPN was crapping themselves since the race went super long.

The scheduled show was "Fantasy Football" something or another. Really, Fantasy????? I do fantasize about something but it isn't sports.

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Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 11812776)
Every year they need to pick a race and spread a little oil on a few corners without the driver's knowledge just to keep them on their toes. .

That's an idea I can get behind. Isn't it always one or possibly two races per year that have some rain that totally throws the grid into chaos? Love it! Like when Seb could have been WDC a few years ago but threw it into the wall on last corner at Hockenheim.

RBNetEngr 10-03-2022 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by matthewb0051 (Post 11812919)
Every time Nicole Briscoe comes on and says, "thank you for watching the F1 Grand Prix" of blablabla. I say out loud, now F you and we are switching to something we already had on the schedule and we really don't want to commit to F1.

Yesterday, I'm sure ESPN was crapping themselves since the race went super long.

If you listen to ALL the words that Nicole Briscoe says at the end of every race, as well as at the beginning of every race, “Formula 1 coverage is provided EXCLUSIVELY by Mothers Polish.” So, Mothers Polish $$ decides when the coverage ends.

While it sucks that ESPN cuts it off shortly after the end of the race (“continued live coverage on ESPN3” which YouTubeTV doesn’t carry), I do enjoy the fact that the full race is run without commercial interruptions, or split screen coverage with commercials on half the screen. By comparison, NBC Sports and CBS Sport race coverage just sucks.

URY914 10-03-2022 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RBNetEngr (Post 11813003)
If you listen to ALL the words that Nicole Briscoe says at the end of every race, as well as at the beginning of every race, “Formula 1 coverage is provided EXCLUSIVELY by Mothers Polish.” So, Mothers Polish $$ decides when the coverage ends.

While it sucks that ESPN cuts it off shortly after the end of the race (“continued live coverage on ESPN3” which YouTubeTV doesn’t carry), I do enjoy the fact that the full race is run without commercial interruptions, or split screen coverage with commercials on half the screen. By comparison, NBC Sports and CBS Sport race coverage just sucks.

I agree. Indycar Racing is a terrible viewing experience.

rfuerst911sc 10-03-2022 11:37 AM

I find Indycar and IMSA enjoyable to watch on Peacock via Hulu . Having said that I try to purchase Mother's products because of their F1 TV sponsorship .

URY914 10-03-2022 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 11813055)
I agree. Indycar Racing is a terrible viewing experience.

Let me explain further. Indycar on NBC Sports with commercials every 5 minutes and without Paul Tracy on the team. Maybe now without having Jimmy Johnson being the focus will help some too.

red 928 10-03-2022 11:07 PM

Hamilton on the radio during the race:

I told you so
why won't anyone listen to me
he's being naughty
I'm going to tell my mommy

eight-year-old

Reg 10-04-2022 03:13 AM

In Canada it seems TSN goes to commercial as soon as pit stops begin. Split screen but it ruins it. Surely a better job could be done here.


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