^ They lack the will to do that.

Seems like it.

I remember when they were the best run team in the pit lane. So long ago, now…

Great overtaking, many passes for the lead. How many times have we seen so many different teams in the lead?

And the Ferrari strategist is just astounding bad.

Even I was wondering wtf. Its good the drivers have three weeks to put this behind them. Gutted for LeClerc again.

I just can't believe the poor decisions Ferrari make week in and week out . Too much pasta ? Too stubborn ? Just plain stupid ? Very strange . You would think in the thousands of meetings they must have someone would step forward with a plan to pull their heads out of their butts .

As soon as I saw hard compound tires going on Charles's car I said out loud: big mistake, WTF are you doing?.

I mean, if I can see it I really don't know why they can't. That was literally Ferrari's race to win and they did everything they could to throw that away.

Brilliant result from Max and RB.

Especially after Alpine had gone on the hard tire compound with less than stellar results . Ferrari just seem to not have track awareness .

Yes, Ferrari sabotaged their race with the hard tire decision. No doubt.

After the race, when Toto was being interviewed, they asked him what he thought was behind Ferrari’s decision to choose the hard tires. He said that Ferrari used an extra set of Mediums on Friday (FP1/2) so they didn’t have another set of Mediums for today. And if they switched to Soft they would have had an extra stop. Which, in the end, they did anyway.

So sad that one of the best 2022 cars, driven by two highly capable drivers, are suffering in the race finishes because of bad strategic decisions during the race. Maybe during the August break they’ll be making some personnel changes. I heard that one of Aston Martin’s strategists is leaving (today was her last race).

Bottas was on hard tires as well with similar poor results.

So wife and I went on a trip with another family this weekend and my friend saw that I was watching qualifying yesterday and the race today. I let out a groan when Ferrari put Leclerc on the hards. I had to explain to him the nuances of F1, strategies with tires etc. He's a huge Dallas Cowboys fan, so the analogy that stuck with him is that Ferrari are the Cowboys of F1. They both are the most prestigious team in their sport, a great history whose best years are behind them, and when they are threatening to have a great season, they make terrible decisions that ruins it for them.

How many blunders can a team make in a year? I bet even Max wishes he had some more competition.

Great race though.

I know Max was voted driver of the day,
 

But I think Ham had a fantastic drive also and did well from start to finish.

Fernando Alonso has signed a multi year deal with Aston Martin to replace Vettel. This should open the door to backfill with Piastri at Alpine .

Piastri at Alpine for ‘23 has been confirmed by the team.

Man, that deal went together quickly. Just a few days ago Alonso was saying he was happy where he was and he wasn’t in a hurry to make a decision.

Only the Scuderia could qualify 2nd and 3rd, and still be on the back foot to the cars starting 7th, 10th, and 11th. Whichever engineer decided that the hard tire was the way to go should not be allowed to make those decisions in the future.

Would you rather drive for Alpine or Aston Martin? Hopefully Fred knows something I don't, because that's not the choice I would have made. Or maybe it wasn't his choice.

Now Ricci to Alpine?

Cole Pearn is running B and Bs in BC. He could run the Ferrari team better like he did for Furniture Row winning championships. Guess Alpine on hard tires wasn't enough convince the Italians

A bit more info.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/red-bull-powertrains-honda-2025-extension/

Easy answer: Alpine. The dynamic with father / son on AM is not something I would want to be involved in.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/oscar-piastri-alpine-2023-driver-denial/

Funny post, sorry if its been posted already.

https://www.reddit.com/r/formuladank/comments/wd88um/interview_with_ferrari_insider_about_what/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

I have to agree with everyone regarding Ferrari's race "management." They don't appear to be watching the race unfold. They had 30+ laps to see that the hard tires were slower (both Haas cars switched to them early), and yet, they still used them. I can easily see Mercedes overhauling them for second in the CC, and Charles is pretty much doomed as far as the driver's championship is concerned.

Yeah, what's up with this? I saw a repost from his Twitter where he publicly disputes the thing.

Edit: but F1 and Sky are both reporting it on their Instagram like it is done deal

My gut feeling is Piastri has been in discussions for a while with Williams to replace Latifi . Just a hunch . The statement by Alpine and then the denial by Piastri reminds me of Chip Ganassi vs McLaren both arguing over who owns Palou . Very strange.

Seems like there is some disagreement about the current contract that exists between Alpine and Piastri...

Seems everybody on both sides of the pond want to be in McLaren. The cars seem to be a handful these past few years. What’s wrong with Alpine to make FA as well as Piastri want out?? This Aston Martin FA move seemed ideal for Piastri it would have seemed? Silly season indeed. And who’s in a rush to be in the Williams?

Alonso want to stay but Alpine didn't want him for as long so he wanted to stay so he cut himself a better deal with Aston Martin

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/62389741

I've read Alpine's option on Piastri ran out the day before the shock Alonso announcement from Aston Martin. If so, Piastri is now a free agent, he knows McLaren are wanting to replace Ricciardo so he must be exploring this option or a deal has already been done

To add more intrigue, Alonso and Mark Webber are friends, Mark Webber is Piastri's manager so I'm sure they will have talked before the musical chairs kicked off

I've also read that Schumacher is out of Haas, if this is true does it mean Herta will replace him as he would seem the ideal fit for the team?

Alpine should be pissed if Piastri leaves after the large investment they have made in him. How much more money is McLaren offering?

I would be over the moon if Herta is in a Haas next year.

Exciting times! I wonder if SV is all done or maybe he comes to drive in North America?

I think Vettel is done. He's a family man, now.

Thanks for the insight, Capt. From the Alonso perspective: is a 2-year deal at Aston Martin really better than a 1-year one at Alpine? You have a slower car, and an owner whose mgmt style even Otmar couldn't stand. And now you have to deal with that for 2 seasons. That's how you want to go out from F1?

Ya I don’t see the upside of going to Aston? The car has been crap most of the year, the strategy hasn’t been great and everything you hear about Lawrence makes him seem terrible. Lance will be forever the #1 driver, and he can’t even be bothered to check his mirrors.


I really hope the MSC rumors aren’t true. He seems to be hitting his stride finally and if HAAS can get a handle on the car after updates they could be a midfield threat the rest of the year.

Funny, before Seb retired it seemed like silly season was going to be pretty mild this year. Now it seems like there’s rumors about half the seats in the midfield teams. I’m seeing speculation about Piastri to AT in place of Yuki too?

Wow, this is interesting; Mercedes saying RB and Ferrari are cheating (loophole) and the rules will change after the break. Ferrari seems to admit it but Horner says no, should make it interesting for the next race.

https://youtu.be/E_GvJRqGe-k

I always enjoy Aiden's explanations of racing. Here he describes his take on the latest driver shuffle. Extra points for referencing the Jenson Button drama that saw him going to Honder and winning the WDC, instead of Williams who were beginning their decline.

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[Alex Albon] I understand that, with my agreement, Williams Racing have put out a press release this afternoon that I am driving for them next year. This is right and I have signed a contract with Williams for 2023. I will be driving for Williams next year.

Albons announcement was great, and then Piastri got in on the fun! 🤣

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1659543245.jpg

this has got to be a great time to work
for the mercedes F1 team.
Lots of opportunity for upward mobility with
so many of their top players jumping ship and
going to work for red bull

Sauce?

You likely get to have a cool looking Aston street car to drive as your company car!

That is about it. I wonder what company car the folks at Williams or HAAS get?