I remember that. He wanted full wets and the engineers looked around and noticed everyone was on inters. He was having issues in the beginning with temps I believe and was skating around ... just like the other drivers. If he had been on full wets he would have been at the back of the field in no time.

This is exactly what makes his "thanks guys, we win as a team" comments so gross after a decent result or win. Hellsbells, he will even rip into the team, win, and then still give them the thank you/ team BS.

Turns out that he actually was talking about the scrubbed inters he’d had on during the lap to the grid. He said he was really happy with those tires, but his crew elected to put the brand new inters on and he couldn’t get them to come up to temp, so they were really slippery.

Delayed decision on cost cap till Monday. Optics don’t look good no matter what way you look at it.

Interesting.

My version was what Crofty or the pitlane guy was saying at the early point of the race (or possibly DiResta or Ant). But looks like they were wrong.



https://us.motorsport.com/f1/news/hamilton-wont-punish-himself-for-f1-singapore-gp-mistake/10378491/

You're right and Ham was right to have wanted those tires.

Close qualifying!

Nice to see the top several drivers within a few 10ths of a second.

I do have to wonder about ESPN. In practice three with 45 minutes to go, no warning, BAM. Cut to talking heads talking about other men playing games and not even showing a game, just talk about other people playing a game. Practice 3 is just cut off. Oh well. Showing a sport on a sports channel is not important, lets talk about games.

2nd race in a row the top three qualified to the same tenth.

Did verstappen get penalized for his weaving around?

Lol, I’m sorry but that will never happen.

He was very lucky to get a pass on that. IMO

I would not want to be the guy who has to explain to Honda why they denied the WDC trophy to them on their home turf.

^^^this, this and this^^^

Honda are making noises about coming back to F1 in 2026 (not that they will have left anyway) ;)

F1 doesn't have any Far Eastern car manufacturers, only European car manufacturers

No better way for the FIA to entice Honda back into the sport than a Honda powered car winning the drivers championship in Japan

Over the years I've been very lucky to have played a small part in designing 18x Honda powered F1 cars and one Honda powered F1 land speed record car

Of all the car manufacturer 'works' race teams I've worked for, it's the Honda racing culture I've clicked with the best

We both do racing for the same reasons :cool:

Really hoping Verstappen wins tomorrow, not for his/RB's benefit but for the satisfaction I'd get from having had the opportunity of helping Honda achieve their dream win!

I am happy for the fans that they are least saw some racing . Sitting in the rain is never fun . Safety protocol will be heavily investigated after this one . Sure glad no one was hurt with the recovery vehicle on course . Congrats to the winner .

Way to go Max. Orange man good. I couldn’t help but think of the German GP in 68 when Stewart put on a great show in even worse conditions. On the first lap he had come by S/F, over the hill and back into the forest before Hill came by in 2nd place.

You got your wish.

Max is Champ.

He ended up with a 27 second lead, in a 28 lap race. That is dominate.

They showed Max in a special room with the World Championship banner and a special chair. He said he was lonely, and got up and went to talk to the other drivers.

Congrats, Captain!

Thanks Glen and Paul

Max has been exceptional this year, 12 wins to date with 4 races to go, current record is 13 for both Schumacher and Vettel, think the record his his for the taking

Should be a walk, especially with no more WDC pressure.

Looks like Red Bull and AM exceeded the budget cap . Not sure what the penalty is or will be .

https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/93479/breaking-red-bull-and-aston-martin-confirmed-to-have-breached-budget-cap/

What a $hit$how F1 is right now - under all its' netflix newfound visibility..

Cost cap was found to be breached for Redbull and Aston - now what ? Retroactively remove the championship ? or just the team's and not the driver's ? Fine them ? Reduce their aero time for next year ? No decision yet. REdbull's is a "minor overspend" infraction - Aston "procedural only"

Photo finish between alonso and Vettel ? Completely missed !

Many years ago Bianchi died stupidly because of a crane on the suzuka track. Guess what they did again this year ? A crane, on track, in the fog... And they had the balls to reprimand Gasly for driving past the crane too fast. WTH ? Talk about covering your own mistakes by pointing the finger elsewhere - the guy could not see and that was exactly the point of never having cranes on track with cars circulating !! Jesus !

Even the LEC/PER thing.. "Gaining an advantage" used to mean you passed the guy but missed the next turn, so you gave it back. But if you were already ahead and missed a turn, all you ever gave back was the extra distance you gained. I don't recall a 5 sec penalty for that, ever... Do you ? I never liked this rule in truth, I actually do prefer what they did this time (and penalize the guy who missed the turn), but it's the first time I see it applied that way - usually the guy in front stays in front even if he missed a turn historically Fine, either way, but pick one ? The lack of consistency in rules applications overall is terrible.. And the utter confusion in scoring was something to behold ! The FOM/FIa management is crap.

Wonder what the deal is gonna be now - retroactively changing WC results is kinda lame. I think future penalties is best, hobble Redbull and Aston with less Aero time and a mean accounting supervisor. Make Horner to fly Easyjet ;-) Marko to ride in a caravan... Gotta laugh as Alonso's usual prescience in picking a loser team - if Aston does get cut at the knees for this.

I find it interesting that Red Bull are very adamant that they submitted all paperwork required and that it added up to less than the cap . So are they lieing ? They can't add ? The FIA can't add ? Something seems off to me.

You either balanced the checkbook or you didn't . I am sure there will be legal wrangling and eventually a final verdict .

I'm sure the reality is more like a billionaire and his lawyer being audited by the IRS, hairs being split, terminology adjusted, final wording agreed upon.

7.5 million is a rounding error, apparently.

I say that without judgement; just reading and processing the report as published.

I’d like to know why the F aren’t there strobes and flashers all over the cranes or other on track equipment. The pace car is lit up like a Christmas tree, why can’t the other vehicles be too?


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They are lying.

I think their contention is that they're saying that the FIA is including costs that shouldn't be in the cap, and the FIA is saying that they're in the cap. That there's only one team that went over tells me that RB knew exactly what the cap applied to, blew it, and are trying to wriggle out of consequences.

Other team principals were aware that RB was over the cap when the review started last year before the season was over. This is not a shocker to RB.

When it comes to bull**** politicking amongst the team principals, nobody compares to Horner. And it works for them, so why not keep it up?

Because they should never be occupying the track at the same time as the race cars unless fully bunched up behind the safety car.

My understanding is three teams went over the cap . Williams apparently caught their overage , alerted the FIA and paid it back . RB and AM went over the cap . RB is fighting it but really haven't heard much from AM but their issue sounds more like paperwork or filing errors .

If RB or any other team went over then a penalty has to be applied . I think the FIA is trying to figure out what an appropriate punishment should be .

Presuming overspending equates to some performance benefit, a monetary penalty would be a slap on the wrist. That benefit could be maintained for years. Do they have a formula they could use to take away points? I don’t see that happening.

Start a new series. Formula Won.

Run what you brung. No cost cap. Tire , fuel, weight and crash test regulations only. Get caught cheating and the driver/team are out. Race on racetracks only.

Thank you! 😁

If I am understanding Red Bulls position on the cap overage , some of the overage revolves around Adrian Neweys salary or compensation . Apparently Adrian was on the books as a " contractor " vs a direct employee .I have to assume the $$$ associated with contractors comes out of a different bucket of funds .

And that bucket doesn't count against the cap ? Would love to know the details on this and if it is true .

I read some opinion piece about doing that type of race, basically unrestricted F1.

The cars are pulling 5G now in braking and corners. If they could go to active aerodynamics, traction control, active suspension like the new Corvettes and 911GT3 has, ABS, and all the other modern computer controlled gizmos they might be pulling 7G in corners and under braking. I can't image 2 hours of track time at 5G and I few drivers could stand it at 7G without G suits, and the costs would be extreme. All the top drivers will stick to F1 unless the backers of the new series throws massive prize money to the drivers and teams.

I am a long long way from a professional race driver as a fat old man driving my basically stock 200 HP 85 911. I did a 25 minute session at Eagles Canyon track in Texas, in very pleasant weather and I was beat. Buy the time my run group came back up I had recovered and went back out pulling 1G in corners and having as mush fun as is legal in a car with clothes on. I did 130 miles of track time and my face was almost stuck with a big smile on my face. I honestly can't imaging the Le Mans or Dayton drivers in real race cars doing long stints and double stints, in very hot cars.

No freakin' way! Redbull played with this idea with the gran turismo game series, and what is technically feasible is not at all okay for people. Forget G-suits, the brain couldn't keep up for long enough and fatal crashes would be constant.

https://youtu.be/Rd6tkQNuR70?t=68

This business about how overspending creates an advantage "for years" is laughable. Does anyone really believe that? In F1?

Honda has really established some serious prestige now by winning the WDC two years in a row. In fact, I'd say they increased the prestige of the top Japanese car brands in general, such is the notoriety that they've achieved.

I suppose Red Bull has taken some things to extreme limits. Not wanting to see fatalities.

I knew I did not like Horner and Helmut, now I know why, whiners and cheaters

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Just bring back tobacco money and grid girls. Is booze sponsorship outlawed as well? Then bring it back too.

Nothing like a Marlboro Ferrari or a Benson and Hedges Jordan. Also nothing like a West cigarette girl giving you a ciggy and lighting it while you walk into Hockenheim.

Where is the like button?

Bring back V10's too!

I fell down this rabbit hole, millions of fantastic photos, not just of F1 too, found a few hot West girls too

https://www.motorsportimages.com/

^^^^ Not bad, but only 150,051 images for IMSA. You'd think they could do a little better than that .... :eek: :D

Thanks for the link.

That should keep you occupied for a while :D

Love the photo's you post up so looking forward to seeing what you find :cool:

Found this too if your into race stats https://motorsportstats.com/ it's covers IMSA but there is another website that has car photos too, I'll post up a link when I find it again

Just for my own amusement I'm compiling a photo and statistical record of motorsport achievements I've helped contribute to over the years

Maybe I'll turn it all into a book for myself or use the photos for screen savers or create some garage wall art next to my model car collection :confused:

Have no thoughts of stopping anytime soon but it's been fun looking back at it all :cool:

Curt, found it, lots of IMSA car photos for you, just pick a year

https://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/Road_Atlanta-1974-04-21.html