Ever Shrinking Lake Mead

[Por_sha911]

Originally Posted by faverymi

too many humans. Simple

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[flatbutt]

Originally Posted by GG Allin

I know nothing about the weather out in the southwest but it looks like there is some rain out there today and the map looked similar yesterday. How many days like this would it take for a sizable increase in the water levels out there.

I had a dark red radar patch pass over my town yesterday but it was so bloody hot that very little made it to the ground. I imagine the SW faces that issue all of the time.

[dw1]

Remember Sam Kinison? He made a brilliant observation applicable to this situation: "YOU LIVE IN A F**ING DESERT!!!"

[HobieMarty]

Originally Posted by Otter74

What's going on out there? The biggest drought in the west in something like 400 years. And too much water use.

Yeah, I was just wondering if anyone here had any first hand experience with what is going on and how are ya dealing with it?

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[GH85Carrera]

I presume all the dry lake bed is owned by the feds. Is there any effort to clean up the debris of sunken boats and trash that was underwater and now exposed? I know there have been a few bodies recovered. Are the hauling out the debris?

It sure seems logical that a trash removal program now would makes sense. I guess that is the reason it will never happen, whatever is smart to do, is opposite of what our government will do.

[3rd_gear_Ted]

The early 1980 Monsoon seasons in AZ/Utah produced epic desert rains.
Glen Canyon, Hoover, Davis & Parker Dam all had to open their floodgates in 1983.
Ponds bubbled up in the desert near the Colorado River all over and were present for a decade after.

[ted]

Been watching some of these videos, looks bad.

[RNajarian]

I would be curious to see an update of the 1948 B29 crash site in Lake Mead. I hope it is still safe from being disturbed.

https://www.nps.gov/lake/learn/historic-lake-mead-b-29.htm

[GG Allin]

That boat sticking up out of the mud, I assume there's a big Merc. V8 down there, possibly salvageable.

[KNS]

Originally Posted by RNajarian

I would be curious to see an update of the 1948 B29 crash site in Lake Mead. I hope it is still safe from being disturbed.

https://www.nps.gov/lake/learn/historic-lake-mead-b-29.htm

The B-29 is slowly being decimated by Quagga Mussels, the weight of the mussels is causing the aircraft structure to collapse.

[tabs]

I suspect one day in the future I will turn the water tap on and nothing but sand will come out...

Sooner of later the tap to S CA is going to be turned off... life in S CA is going to change rather dramatically...Starbucks will be selling water for $4 a mug...a shower will cost ya $20.

There will be a moratorium on building residential swimming pools and existing ones are going to pay a heavy water tax... it will probably come to the point where a swimming pool will actually DECREASE the value of a home..

Grass lawns are a thing of the past...the Water dept actually pays home owners to remove their lawns..that has been in place here for about 17 years.. Some people replace them with AstroTurf lawns..at least ya don't have to mow nor water them...

The world as you knew it is gone..

PS I could also be talking about your economic world here .....but I won't because you Boyz all get the idear.

[KNS]

Originally Posted by tabs

I suspect one day in the future I will turn the water tap on and nothing but sand will come out...

Sooner of later the tap to S CA is going to be turned off... life in S CA is going to change rather dramatically...Starbucks will be selling water for $4 a mug...a shower will cost ya $20.

There will be a moratorium on building residential swimming pools and existing ones are going to pay a heavy water tax... it will probably come to the point where a swimming pool will actually DECREASE the value of a home..

Grass lawns are a thing of the past...the Water dept actually pays home owners to remove their lawns..that has been in place here for about 17 years.. Some people replace them with AstroTurf lawns..at least ya don't have to mow nor water them...

The world as you knew it is gone..

PS I could also be talking about your economic world here .....but I won't because you Boyz all get the idear.

Typical rainbows and puppy dogs post from Tabs however he makes some comments that are already happening.

New (massive) housing developments in Phoenix are having to scale back the number of homes planned because they can't guarantee a reliable source of water. And no grass allowed in the front yard. Thousands of homes are planned to be built using groundwater as their source. Tables are already dropping. The shortsightedness is incredible.

In Rio Verde Foothills North of Scottsdale, the residents have been told to find their own source of water - drill or have it hauled in. Some are drilling and not hitting water. Their source, which has been the town of Scottsdale, told them no more water after January 1st, 2023.

Things will get interesting in the next few years, I'm glad I don't live in Phoenix anymore.

[Daves911L]

Originally Posted by GG Allin

I know nothing about the weather out in the southwest but it looks like there is some rain out there today and the map looked similar yesterday. How many days like this would it take for a sizable increase in the water levels out there.

A massive number. The water in the Colorado River system originates almost entirely from snow, melting off the west slope of the Rockies and other ranges west of the Cont. divide. The 4 upper basin states (Colorado, Utah, Wyoming, New Mexico) mostly produce the water, the 3 lower Basin states (Arizona, California, Nevada) mostly consume the water. Drought and climate cycles are why reservoirs exist (with power production as an important fringe benefit). The Colorado story is interesting and complex. It almost certainly is "overallocated" as the original divvying up of the waters nearly 100 years ago was based on hydrological data collected during what is known now to be a "wet" period. Someone mentioned the problem is too many humans. That's probably right. The lower basin states have been using their full allocation and then some for a long time. It is growth in the upper basin states, primarily Colorado, that has stressed the system as they have started to use more and more of their legal allocation. That, and a 25 year general reduction in winter snowpack. Whether climate change, or merely normal climate cycle is difficult to say (paleoclimatological data shows rather consistent wet/dry cycles of roughly 30 years for the southwestern US for millenia).

[Deschodt]

Smells of water mismanagement to me... The story of water rights in California and nearby states is downright crazy with one billionaire family (Resnick ?) owning more than half of Ca's rights (if memory serves, it may not) and using it to grow mostly produce... for export - not even in country. Arcane and archaic rules for division too... This is so "America" - on the verge of collapse and still trying to make a buck. It's truly surprising to me that in these times billionaires do not fear for their lives but instead prosper some more. The French revolution started for less, but I guess the royalty didn't have as good PR and lobbying.

Last year we were driving from the bay area to Yosemite, during one of the worst drought on record, and we drove past fields and fields of almond trees as far as the eye could see for possibly 20 minutes - all being watered like they need to be and then some... Anecdotal but "Sigh" - maybe start growing fruit/vegetable where there's more water? Use more Nuclear instead of relying on hydro (or coal) but that's another story.

[GH85Carrera]

I see the water issues in the far south west and I marvel at the crazy mismanagement. Then I am stunned when I see how much planning and forethought the Oklahoma politicians had. Lakes were built, and we capture a lot of rainfall for drinking water. We have plenty of water, our only issue is processing it fast enough to supply the consumption.

The water that flows from my tap comes from man made lakes, supplied by the creeks and rivers from rainfall. Some lakes are as far away as 70 miles outside of Oklahoma City. When I flush the toilet or take a shower, the water goes down the drain, to the city water treatment plant, then is discharged back into the rivers and on down the road south eventually to the Mississippi River and to the gulf.

We have water rationing rules in effect year round. Again, not from lack of water, but the processing plants. Plans are underway for more plants, but those are built over many years. Oklahoma City owns a large area of land on the southwest side. Developers see it, and want to buy and develop there. The city says no way. that will be a lake in the future when the water is needed. Right now it is just land to be held by the city until needed. Again, real planning from the former politicians.

[Fast Freddy 944]

Globalist agenda to de-populate 2/3rds the earth. FJB!

[3rd_gear_Ted]

Open loop horizontal outdoor farming is being replaced with closed loop indoor vertical farming as economic force align and make it so.
The Buffalo will roam the plains again

[Daves911L]

Originally Posted by 3rd_gear_Ted

Open loop horizontal outdoor farming is being replaced with closed loop indoor vertical farming as economic force align and make it so.
The Buffalo will roam the plains again

Cannabis really can’t feed that many people, no matter what the stoners think. If the Buffalo again roam the way plains, so will humans once again hunt, kill, and eat them. Facts of life. Civilization exists because of farming. Desert climates produce a very significant portion of the worlds food. Hot and sunny climes yield much much more per acre than cool cloudy places, as long as you can import the water necessary for plant growth. I’ll almost guarantee you will eat something today grown with Colorado river water.

[rusnak]

Originally Posted by 3rd_gear_Ted

Open loop horizontal outdoor farming is being replaced with closed loop indoor vertical farming as economic force align and make it so.
The Buffalo will roam the plains again

Are you totally high, or just a bit stoned?

[dlockhart]

Lots of rescues by the SNORR folks at the lake