Prevalence of mental health issues

[fintstone]

Everything seems pretty normal to me...except when I go into the big cities or what I see on the internet.

There has been a lot of upheaval in some areas...but it has largely impacted the lower middle class/poor and small businesses. Some areas seem to have chosen not to move on from the pandemic and get a life. We did that a couple years ago.

Of course, I don't visit schools anymore, and they seem to be a large source of our problems as teachers are largely not the image of stability they once were. Many seem to intentionally want to confuse or indoctrinate children. They were pillars of the community and models of confident conformity and compassion at one time. Kids need that, not someone who makes it all about them/clearly looking to "find themselves".

The only real difference I see in the younger kids of family members is that many are obese, lazy, and do not really have a lot of ambition. They do not much play physical sports at all and seem to not have a competitive nature. Apparently, sports are only for those that are very good who are trained by adults almost full time (no pickup stuff like we did). Their parents do not pressure them to improve or do anything. They live at home after they graduate and seem to have no real intent to pursue a career or additional education.

[URY914]

The hospital system I work in can't open pediatric behavioral health rooms fast enough. Teen and pre-teens are holding in the ED's. People shouldn't try to generalize as to who they are or about the reasons for it. These kids are from all walks of life.

[cockerpunk]

Originally Posted by fintstone

The only real difference I see in the younger kids of family members is that many are obese, lazy, and do not really have a lot of ambition. They do not much play physical sports at all and seem to not have a competitive nature. Apparently, sports are only for those that are very good who are trained by adults almost full time (no pickup stuff like we did). Their parents do not pressure them to improve or do anything. They live at home after they graduate and seem to have no real intent to pursue a career or additional education.

see, in my career i find far more old men who don't know how to operate a PDF or other basic, BASIC, tasks, than i do youngins coming in who dont work.

[gacook]

Originally Posted by cockerpunk

see, in my career i find far more old men who don't know how to operate a PDF or other basic, BASIC, tasks, than i do youngins coming in who dont work.

I'll grant you that there are plenty (too many) older people in the workforce who haven't kept up to date with basic computing skills.

BUT most of them have work ethic that put the "youngins" to shame. It's a weird balance. Personally, I'll be glad when the last of the boomers retires. No offense to them...it's just time for most of them to go. Some (many) are still brilliant, and I hope they're taking this time to pass on their knowledge to the next generation.

[cockerpunk]

Originally Posted by gacook

I'll grant you that there are plenty (too many) older people in the workforce who haven't kept up to date with basic computing skills.

BUT most of them have work ethic that put the "youngins" to shame. It's a weird balance. Personally, I'll be glad when the last of the boomers retires. No offense to them...it's just time for most of them to go. Some (many) are still brilliant, and I hope they're taking this time to pass on their knowledge to the next generation.

i mean they don't. you can find aristotle quotes about how the previous generation doesn't have work ethic.

its just old men being old and men. the kids today are alright.

[bivenator]

Originally Posted by cockerpunk

i mean they don't. you can find aristotle quotes about how the previous generation doesn't have work ethic.

its just old men being old and men. the kids today are alright.

You just told us the kids are so broken they are unable to function. I'm beginning to think you don't know what you are talking about.

[cockerpunk]

Originally Posted by bivenator

You just told us the kids are so broken they are unable to function. I'm beginning to think you don't know what you are talking about.

i mean the world melting down around them isnt their fault.

or are you going to pull the other classic old man, and blame the kids for the world that you built for them?

the kids work ethic isnt the problem. its decisions that were made about how the world should work that were made before they were even born.

[bivenator]

Previously you had posted that Chinese hegemony was a cause of the anxieties of today's youth. I have a fair amount of contact with today's youth and I can't say I have ever heard one express concern with Chinese hegemony.
Most of the youth seem to think they have a pretty good grip on events around the world. They have been exposed to countless memes about world events and social conditions. When questioned about these topics the understanding they express is no deeper than the words contained in the meme.
Most of the anxiety seems to come from the social media pool these youths are swimming. The petty human squabbles far exceed the fear of Chinese hegemony.

Each generation has had it's challenges, inflation and joblessness were really high as I was graduating high school. The group before me had Vietnam, prior Korea, WW2 etc.

I don't think it is a flaw in the quality of the person that inhabit the youth of today. I firmly believe that Marxist values becoming more and more prevalent in our schools, media and government have created an accelerated decline in society. This is by design and a feature not a bug of this ideology.

[tabs]

Originally Posted by RobFrost

It's proven that overall happiness in any country is inversely proportional to the level of inequality. Inequality is growing so people are becoming unhappier.

People are increasingly realising they're at the bottom of the pile because a competitive process has put them there causing despair.

Other people drink the kool aid telling them they're at the bottom because someone is oppressing them. This convinces them to go to war with the system, instead of investing in deferred gratification, a catch 22 cycle of failure and misery.

Increasingly fragmented media deliver content tailored to the individual, so society doesn't enjoy the same shared experiences it used to, leading to a lack of social cohesion. This also facilitates bubbles of confirmatory bias such as increasingly polarised political views.

People meet less due to Covid etc., and remote working facilitated by the Internet and videoconferencing. Also, the market increasingly commiditises the world around us, as Marx predicted it would, so our interactions with others are increasingly transactional.

All of this is eroding the feeling of belonging to a society. I think in the future governments will have to work harder to build social cohesion and common experiences. For this reason I think sports teams and events like the Olympics, and national TV shows will become increasingly valuable to society.

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[tabs]

Originally Posted by cockerpunk

i mean they don't. you can find aristotle quotes about how the previous generation doesn't have work ethic.

its just old men being old and men. the kids today are alright.

Is you pov representative of your gen? A glimpse into the mind of the da younger gen?.

[tabs]

Peoples problems and issues haven't changed, they are about the same as they have always been. Whjat has changed is the level of stress both science and technology (Nuclear weapons and the shrinking world) and that civilization is unraveling in the face of unrealistic economic policies.

As I stated in 2012, people are like ants on a hot tin plate that is growing ever warmer..which make peoples issues begin to surface as the stress level rises..their reaction to the stress becomes bat shyte crazy. Like Lemmings running to the cliff...

The stress levels have become so great that people in general have have become psychotic..it is a mass psychosis..you might say that it is psychotic to keep spending money that you have no hope of ever being able to repay, while thinking that it is perfectly sane to do so.The insanity of it is that you continue to think that you can afford to keep spending because you are a rich nation, when the reality is that you are collectively broke Some people think that because they are solvent they are immune from the consequences, what they fail to realize is that the collective will suck them down as well.

When you argue with a crazy person expecting a different result each time, that makes you what? I can wait..

[kach22i]

August 1, 2022
Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/01/health/ultraprocessed-food-dementia-study-wellness/index.html

Now, a new study has revealed eating more ultraprocessed foods may contribute to overall cognitive decline, including the areas of the brain involved in executive functioning -- the ability to process information and make decisions.

2022 Jun 21
Ultra-Processed Food Consumption and Mental Health: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of Observational Studies
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35807749/

Abstract

Since previous meta-analyses, which were limited only to depression and by a small number of studies available for inclusion at the time of publication, several additional studies have been published assessing the link between ultra-processed food consumption and depression as well as other mental disorders. We aimed to build on previously conducted reviews to synthesise and meta-analyse the contemporary evidence base and clarify the associations between the consumption of ultra-processed food and mental disorders. A total of 17 observational studies were included (n = 385,541); 15 cross-sectional and 2 prospective. Greater ultra-processed food consumption was cross-sectionally associated with increased odds of depressive and anxiety symptoms, both when these outcomes were assessed together (common mental disorder symptoms odds ratio: 1.53, 95%CI 1.43 to 1.63) as well as separately (depressive symptoms odds ratio: 1.44, 95%CI 1.14 to 1.82; and, anxiety symptoms odds ratio: 1.48, 95%CI 1.37 to 1.59). Furthermore, a meta-analysis of prospective studies demonstrated that greater ultra-processed food intake was associated with increased risk of subsequent depression (hazard ratio: 1.22, 95%CI 1.16 to 1.28). While we found evidence for associations between ultra-processed food consumption and adverse mental health, further rigorously designed prospective and experimental studies are needed to better understand causal pathways.

[VINMAN]

Originally Posted by cockerpunk

i mean they don't. you can find aristotle quotes about how the previous generation doesn't have work ethic.

its just old men being old and men. the kids today are alright.

Yeah, " Old men cause all the problems in the world..

Don't know if you realize it, but before you know it, YOU are going to be that "old guy" that you so vehemently hate. The "old guy" that the next generation version of you, will be be hating and *****ing about. YOU will be the cause of all the problems that are left for the kids of the generation after you...

Seriously dude, cut the crap...

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[rusnak]

Why do you guys keep feeding the troll? You're taking the bait. Just stop.

[Arizona_928]

Originally Posted by tabs

Peoples problems and issues haven't changed, they are about the same as they have always been. Whjat has changed is the level of stress both science and technology (Nuclear weapons and the shrinking world) and that civilization is unraveling in the face of unrealistic economic policies.

As I stated in 2012, people are like ants on a hot tin plate that is growing ever warmer..which make peoples issues begin to surface as the stress level rises..their reaction to the stress becomes bat shyte crazy. Like Lemmings running to the cliff...

The stress levels have become so great that people in general have have become psychotic..it is a mass psychosis..you might say that it is psychotic to keep spending money that you have no hope of ever being able to repay, while thinking that it is perfectly sane to do so.The insanity of it is that you continue to think that you can afford to keep spending because you are a rich nation, when the reality is that you are collectively broke Some people think that because they are solvent they are immune from the consequences, what they fail to realize is that the collective will suck them down as well.

When you argue with a crazy person expecting a different result each time, that makes you what? I can wait..

Interesting argument. I think it's simpler. Media crafted to polarize and influence those who watch it. The technological advancement to put this at everyone's finger(literally) and force them into watching it. It's extremely difficult not to be exposed to this propganda on a smart phone even after disabling all of the media features.

Also. The lemmings were forced off the cliff by the Disney producers. Wait. That's your point... nvm

[cockerpunk]

Originally Posted by bivenator

Previously you had posted that Chinese hegemony was a cause of the anxieties of today's youth. I have a fair amount of contact with today's youth and I can't say I have ever heard one express concern with Chinese hegemony.
Most of the youth seem to think they have a pretty good grip on events around the world. They have been exposed to countless memes about world events and social conditions. When questioned about these topics the understanding they express is no deeper than the words contained in the meme.
Most of the anxiety seems to come from the social media pool these youths are swimming. The petty human squabbles far exceed the fear of Chinese hegemony.

Each generation has had it's challenges, inflation and joblessness were really high as I was graduating high school. The group before me had Vietnam, prior Korea, WW2 etc.

I don't think it is a flaw in the quality of the person that inhabit the youth of today. I firmly believe that Marxist values becoming more and more prevalent in our schools, media and government have created an accelerated decline in society. This is by design and a feature not a bug of this ideology.

swing and a miss.

[cockerpunk]

Originally Posted by VINMAN

Yeah, " Old men cause all the problems in the world..

Don't know if you realize it, but before you know it, YOU are going to be that "old guy" that you so vehemently hate. The "old guy" that the next generation version of you, will be be hating and *****ing about. YOU will be the cause of all the problems that are left for the kids of the generation after you...

Seriously dude, cut the crap...

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i mean yes.

eventually the kids will be solving the problems my generation causes, and i plan to be trying to help them instead of trying to blame them for my generations political and economic failures.

getting old is a skill. a skill most of the old people i know lack sorely. take responsibility for yourselves. take responsibility for your decisions. you built the world we live in today. not me. and not the kids today. you did.

it is nonsense to attempt to blame people who were not even born yet, for the state of the world and the decisions you made.

its pretty peak boomer frankly. if you feel the kids hate you, thats on you. not them.

[bivenator]

Originally Posted by cockerpunk

swing and a miss.

Good reply but not a great one. So much for having a dialogue.

I actually hope you don't get old.

[cockerpunk]

Originally Posted by bivenator

Good reply but not a great one. So much for having a dialogue.

I actually hope you don't get old.

i didnt destroy the dialogue, you misunderstood my posts on purpose to fight windmills. you arguing in bad faith destroyed the dialogue.

try again if you want to have a dialogue. c'mon, this isn't PARF, do better.

[bivenator]

No thank you.