Professional Designations

[KFC911]

Fresh outta school I worked at Research Triangle Park.... back then it had the highest concentration of advanced degrees of anywhere in the world..... and no one gave a crap about 'em . Some of the best older EEs didn't even have a college degeee ... apptitude and OJT back then. All the youngins were gifted cream of the crop and fresh outta school.

EEs and MEs were a dime-a-dozen, many with MBAs throughout my IT career.... no one asked, cared, or even gave a damn.... you either had "IT" or you didn't.... a couple of the best I ever worked with were gifted.... and never attended college.

[flatbutt]

After leaving the lab for regulatory affairs I was required to obtain the professional certification known as RAP regulatory affairs professional. My employer required that I add it to my email sig which I did. However, I never added my QA/QC cred to my sig.

I once tried adding S.T.U.D. to my sig but that was pretty much frowned upon.

[pwd72s]

COB Crusty Old Bastid

[Cairo94507]

I don't see the need. I could add 3 designations after my name, but who cares? I laugh when I see cars with license plates DR or MD or ESQ. It's like advertising you might have money so go ahead and do what you want to me.
I learned over 40 years ago not to advertise your personal opinions or beliefs on your cars. We have enough nuts in the world just looking for the next victim.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by KC911

Fresh outta school I worked at Research Triangle Park.... back then it had the highest concentration of advanced degrees of anywhere in the world..... and no one gave a crap about 'em . Some of the best older EEs didn't even have a college degeee ... apptitude and OJT back then. All the youngins were gifted cream of the crop and fresh outta school.

EEs and MEs were a dime-a-dozen, many with MBAs throughout my IT career.... no one asked, cared, or even gave a damn.... you either had "IT" or you didn't.... a couple of the best I ever worked with were gifted.... and never attended college.

We worked with one certified Photogrammetrist that helped write some of the tests for the board certification. He was the guru at one large engineering firm. He had "just" a high school diploma, and constantly had to correct the work of the newly minted engineers from prestigious colleges. More than one FNG would question his answer, and then get schooled on their error and he showed them the correct answer.

[Paul T]

Originally Posted by Tobra

Something I have never understood.

If an MD lets his license to practice expire, they are not supposed to use the MD on the end anymore. The MD is the degree you got when you graduated. Just because you no longer practice, it does not mean you never graduated medical school. Can't understand the logic at all.

Similar with CFA designation (Chartered Financial Analyst). If you stop paying dues, you aren’t allowed to call yourself a CFA. Ridiculous.

[mjohnson]

Originally Posted by Cairo94507

I don't see the need. I could add 3 designations after my name, but who cares?

Here in Los Alamos, home to more than a few "Drs" if you don't have a stethoscope hanging between your boobs, you're not "Doctor".

My old boss, and yes he's still the boss, has "Dr" as his first name, and "...PhD" as his last name. Such a douchebag...

[RNajarian]

Originally Posted by mjohnson

Here in Los Alamos, home to more than a few "Drs" if you don't have a stethoscope hanging between your boobs, you're not "Doctor".

My old boss, and yes he's still the boss, has "Dr" as his first name, and "...PhD" as his last name. Such a douchebag...

I agree. . .

https://academicguides.waldenu.edu/careerservices/signature

“It is advisable for you to double check the standard in your profession/discipline for the use of “Dr.” as a designation in your e-mail signature. In only a few professional areas is it considered acceptable to use both “Dr.” and your doctoral degree. The preferred convention is to include the degree abbreviation at the end to indicate to everyone that you hold a doctoral degree, and to use Dr. as you would use Mr. or Ms.”

In the military I’ve seen several officers try and “pad” their signature line by including Rank AND degree. . .

Captain (Dr.) John Smith MD, MC USAF. (MD = Medical Doctor / MC= Medical Corps)
He is basically saying I’m a doctor 3 times.

I’ll return these documents and ask them to complete all correspondence using the accepted format as specified in the “Tongue and Quill.”

[KFC911]

It like a preacher that insists upon being Dr. ...God doesn't care and neither do us heathens...

Dr J .... he was for real and will always hold that title tho'

[Cairo94507]

Like Dr. Jill Biden.... what a joke.

[Seahawk]

Some people call me Maurice...

[KFC911]

.....and Dr John (RIP) .... Free pass

[svandamme]

Originally Posted by mjohnson

My old boss, and yes he's still the boss, has "Dr" as his first name, and "...PhD" as his last name. Such a douchebag...

In my previous job we had a manager with PhD, who when pressed insisted he was right and I was wrong when I raised an issue of incorrect time standards in Medical DICOM vs usage in computer context as UTC.

2 fields
Local Time
UTC offset

the Dicom standard says
Field 1 is local time
UTC is the offset of that time to UTC

But it was written in terribly chitty language so all computer geeks typically read it as
Time and UTC offset is to indicate how far to calculate the local time from UTC


So lets say NYC
10 AM
Offset -5

In Dicom that means, the RX is taken at 10 AM
And that 10 AM means 10 AM when its 15h00 UTC

in computer standards
computer time is ALWAYS UTC
and then you use the offset to find out the human time at the location
10 -5 would be 5AM somewhere in Kazachstan or whatever


Each year at DST changes, people would have to correct all kinds of rules to workaround the mistakes in the various areas of the Software made by teams under that PhD manager


yet he insisted, he knew how to read the standard better then me, because he was a PhD


In the end I wrote the email CC PHD to the standards comittee and asked them if they could clarify if the PhD has better reading comprehension then the high school drop out.

And that was the end of that

[dennis in se pa]

I am entertained when people call themselves Doctor, when in fact they have a doctoral degree, but are not licensed medical doctors. People with masters degrees don't usually call themselves Master.

[stevej37]

[GH85Carrera]

My wife worked at a university and had to deal with many professors. They ALL insisted they be addresses as Doctor. One of the jerk VPs in my wife's area was a total seagull manager. (come is craps on everything and flies off) He came in and eliminated casual Friday, everyone had to be wear Professional Attire, and address long time friends with any titles, and their last names. So friends of 30 year had to use last names with each other.

When he was finally gone and the new VP came in, he declared casual Friday was back, and friends could use first names, and be addressed as they wished. All the staff had a big get together at a restaurant and celebrated the new rules.

[svandamme]

Originally Posted by dennis in se pa

I am entertained when people call themselves Doctor, when in fact they have a doctoral degree, but are not licensed medical doctors. People with masters degrees don't usually call themselves Master.

The Chiropractors in the US abuse that

in US, they simply started a commercial university that then gives em a doctorate, so they can pretend to be a Doctor in Medical context..

In Europe a chiropractor is not allowed to call himself docter.

Over here if they wanna use that PhD title
"firstname last name (Phd)" not "Dr First Name Last Name"

and no brass plaque allowed.

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by Cairo94507

Like Dr. Jill Biden.... what a joke.

I worked with a lot of folks that had similar degrees that they bought from diploma mills. All referred to themselves as "Doctor" and expected you to do so. Most were totally incompetent but apparently wowed someone by that sad degree. I was in charge of one of the required certifications for them to progress beyond a relatively low level and tightened up the wording/requirements so that none of them qualified unless they had legitimate credentials. It reduced the number of those certified by about 50% (thousands). One was a rear admiral (who sent his people to threaten me). I just laughed at them (so did my boss when I told her).

[red 928]

At the end of my name, I always include "GED"

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by fintstone

I worked with a lot of folks that had similar degrees that they bought from diploma mills. All refereed to themselves as "Doctor" and expected you to do so. Most were totally incompetent but apparently wowed someone by that sad degree. I was in charge of one of the required certifications for them to progress beyond a relatively low level and tightened up the wording/requirements so that none of them qualified unless they had legitimate credentials. It reduced the number of those certified by about 50%. One was a rear admiral (who sent his people to threaten me). I just laughed at them (so did my boss when I told her).

There was a local professional photographer that paid a large sum to his church's local religious university to give him a PhD in photography. He called himself Dr. He was a terrible photographer, and never could get an good exposure on film. I processed a lot of his stuff and it was horrid. He finally gave up on a career as a photographer, and listed to the old adage, those that can, do. Those that can't, teach. He got hired to teach photography at a local university. The university does not just accept the title, they checked it out. They did not recognize his PhD and they said he could not use the title Dr. and he had to teach as a emeritus teacher for a lot less money. He had to be a better teacher than photographer.