Ford GT standing mile 294mph

[masraum]

This is insane.





161mph 1/4
219mph 1/2
and 294 in the mile.

[74-911]

Originally Posted by masraum

This is insane.

161mph 1/4
219mph 1/2
and 294 in the mile.

Insane is right.. Did you notice what appears to be a rather serious cross wind ??

[onewhippedpuppy]

That is insane.

[masraum]

What I wonder is what these insane 1500-2000hp cars could do if it wasn't 1 mile, but was longer, but then I assume you've got 2 problems, tires and reliability at those levels.

[masraum]

I guess I'd also like to see if one of these could do one of those silver state challenges or drive the ring. I'm thinking, maybe (but probably not) on the SSC, but unlikely on the ring.

I remember reading an article many, many years ago about a guy building a '69 Camaro for the SSC. I think it averaged well over 200mph, and was clocked "in a bend" at 200 or 220 or something insane like that. I think it eventually become known as Big Red. I remember reading in the article that the guy had set up speedos or tachs for the front tires and rear tires and could use those to tell if the tires were spinning. (I think, it's been 25-30 years, so I could be wrong)

[mattdavis11]

Lot of tail wind. The car would have gone airborne the other direction.

[arcsine]

I like that the car did not have any big or movable wings on it. Kinda tells me the aero on the car is pretty good as is.

I also think they should look into a better braking solution. Not being able to rein the car in (even with a chute) to be able to make the turn at the end of the run is sketchy.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by arcsine

I like that the car did not have any big or movable wings on it. Kinda tells me the aero on the car is pretty good as is.

I also think they should look into a better braking solution. Not being able to rein the car in (even with a chute) to be able to make the turn at the end of the run is sketchy.

The Ford GT is supposed to have pretty good aero, in a large part because of the front grills venting out of the hood, I believe. Also, that thing was pretty low. It's the modern computer designed version of the old GT40 from the 60s and therefore, pretty badassed.

[Tervuren]

Originally Posted by masraum

I remember reading in the article that the guy had set up speedos or tachs for the front tires and rear tires and could use those to tell if the tires were spinning. (I think, it's been 25-30 years, so I could be wrong)

I did this in a computer game that allowed me code the UI. Two needles on the same speedo, one for the actual speed, and one for the rear axle speed. This allowed you to know not just wheelspin, but wheel spin by what amount. Quite fun.

[aschen]

Originally Posted by masraum

What I wonder is what these insane 1500-2000hp cars could do if it wasn't 1 mile, but was longer, but then I assume you've got 2 problems, tires and reliability at those levels.

Ive always wondered what a top fuel dragster could do in a mile given a little better aero, taller gearing, and 4x more engine longevity, etc.

Power requirement to over come drag goes up with the cube of speed

I agree that a 300 mph road car is insane though

[Jim Richards]

I NEED that Ford GT. Really.

[pwd72s]

Originally Posted by Jim Richards

I NEED that Ford GT. Really.

Me too. For those times I need to get to the pool hall quickly!

[Otter74]

Sure, a car like this could run the Silver State Challenge or lap the 'Ring. It is optimized for the Texas Mile, but perfectly capable of doing either of the other two pretty well. You are always going to be traction-limited if you are doing 'Ring Laps, and the engine is not going to be taxed too hard. I imagine if you just program in some good traction control or are careful with the throttle you'd do well. Peak power output would likely be less to ensure reliability for the SSC, but again that can be done relatively easily with the engine management, probably.

As far as the braking goes, remember that brakes convert kinetic energy into thermal energy, and that kinetic energy goes up with the square of velocity. At 300mph you have to convert roughly 2 1/2 times the energy that you do at 200mph, and this becomes pretty hard on a street car, even if you only have to do it once. Plus, events like this are not exactly about what's just good enough - a chute is just smart from a safety standpoint.

[Chocaholic]

Originally Posted by Jim Richards

I NEED that Ford GT. Really.

I'd be happy with ANY Ford GT.

But, I'm easy.

[enzo1]

Friend of mine has 2, 1 Gulf and 1 red...has an order for the new one. Yeah he buys cars like it's nothing. Only car I haven't driven is the 2 Gt's. Ferrari 458, Turbo S Porsche , 850 Hp Mustang no problem..say's he's going to put a kit on the red one

[DanielDudley]

Originally Posted by masraum

I guess I'd also like to see if one of these could do one of those silver state challenges or drive the ring. I'm thinking, maybe (but probably not) on the SSC, but unlikely on the ring.

I remember reading an article many, many years ago about a guy building a '69 Camaro for the SSC. I think it averaged well over 200mph, and was clocked "in a bend" at 200 or 220 or something insane like that. I think it eventually become known as Big Red. I remember reading in the article that the guy had set up speedos or tachs for the front tires and rear tires and could use those to tell if the tires were spinning. (I think, it's been 25-30 years, so I could be wrong)

I remember a guy who had temp sensors on his wheel bearings, to see if they were burning out.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by masraum

I guess I'd also like to see if one of these could do one of those silver state challenges or drive the ring. I'm thinking, maybe (but probably not) on the SSC, but unlikely on the ring.

I remember reading an article many, many years ago about a guy building a '69 Camaro for the SSC. I think it averaged well over 200mph, and was clocked "in a bend" at 200 or 220 or something insane like that. I think it eventually become known as Big Red. I remember reading in the article that the guy had set up speedos or tachs for the front tires and rear tires and could use those to tell if the tires were spinning. (I think, it's been 25-30 years, so I could be wrong)

It was obvious the gearing was VERY tall (duh). It would need a different rear end for a regular track. I am also guessing with that much HP it would overheat with a long track like the ring or the SSC. So a cooling upgrade might be necessary or turn down the power mapping on the computer. Just speculation.

[Jim Bremner]

The chute is there for the rule books. The Ford GT's have some serious brakes but let's face it 3,700 pounds x 293.6 mph is an assload of mass to stop @ 1,086,320 is a bit of momentum

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by masraum

What I wonder is what these insane 1500-2000hp cars could do if it wasn't 1 mile, but was longer, but then I assume you've got 2 problems, tires and reliability at those levels.

Originally Posted by aschen

I've always wondered what a top fuel dragster could do in a mile given a little better aero, taller gearing, and 4x more engine longevity, etc.

Power requirement to over come drag goes up with the cube of speed

I agree that a 300 mph road car is insane though.

One needs to look no further than Bonneville to answer these questions. The current wheel driven, piston engine record is held by the Speed Demon, running a single turbocharged small block Chev, of all things.

Hot Rod Engine Tech Speed Demon: 439 MPH Small Block Land Speed Record - Hot Rod Engine Tech

There are classes wherein the same dry block aluminum hemis that are used in Top Fuel and Funny Car are utilized. They run blowers and nitro, just not nearly the nitro percentage and boost. These are typically "roadster" type classes, rather than "streamliner". They sound absolutely glorious, but they are far from the fastest cars out there.

Danny Thompson has been running his dad Mickey's old car, using a pair of dry block, fuel burning hemis. They are normally aspirated, though, as he is after a class record for such cars. He's already topped 400, which is pretty darn rarified air in the piston engine, wheel driven world.

Danny Thompson Breaks His Dad's 48-Year-Old Family Bonneville Record – News – Car and Driver | Car and Driver Blog

Keep an eye on him - he's going for 500 mph, which would be the absolute wheel driven record, which includes turbine powered cars. I believe Don Vesco still holds that record.

[T77911S]

yea but whats its zero to 60?
how about gas mileage, 3 gal per mile
is there enough room in it for my wife to put her shoes if we go on a trip
probably no AC either
don't dragsters do 300+ in a 1/4 mile?