Originally Posted by speeder (Post 11879278)

McGregor makes me embarrassed because he's Irish but isn't McGregor a Scottish name? That's what I'm going with. :)

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 11879466)

Mohamed Ali was the biggest trash-talker ever but that was different, he was intelligent and funny as hell plus he could back up absolutely anything he ever said, (except for one time against Frazier). :)

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 11879583)

Boxing is the most amazing sport.

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 11879606)

It certainly can be. It has its moments, though. It's unfortunate that at least some of the b.s. for which MMA (and WWF, it's hard to tell the difference sometimes) is known has managed to creep in to boxing. They seem to struggle at times to keep it the more dignified and respectful of the various fighting sports, but it does have a long, proud history of a high level of dignity and sportsmanship. MMA has never enjoyed that - it's been burdened by loud mouthed, tattooed, disrespectful punks from its very inception. Probably a product of the times more than anything else. Hell, NASCAR drivers were throwing their helmets at each other and fist fighting in the pits by then. MMA probably never stood a chance. That said, they never really tried, either.

Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 11879618)

^^^

That is absolutely the story with both Rousey and McGregor, and I agree that it is probably next to impossible for a sports figure to temper their cockiness when experiencing success like they both did.

BTW, I think that brother Higgins is FOS :D when it comes to his MMA-WWF comparisons, but he already knows that!

Originally Posted by DavidI (Post 11879619)

I'll be working Fedor's fight against Bader on February 4, 2023, at the Forum. It's going to be a blast!

Originally Posted by Rodsrsr (Post 11878675)

That's quite an accomplishment and your son is a very well rounded fighter, with Judo for excellent take downs, and BJJ for the ground game. I personally think that one solid judo flip would pretty much incapacitate someone if they fell on the concrete.

This was my logic when I took up BJJ. I wanted a solid self defense martial art that would be effective against a larger person. After watching the old UFC and Royce Gracie, I went with BJJ because it was the most effective against other single styles. We all instinctively know how to throw punches and even kick to a degree so when two untrained people fight the winner is usually the bigger, stronger, overall tougher guy.

BJJ neutralizes this because anyone that trains grappling knows that instincts are completely wrong when it comes to ground fighting. It takes years of drilling and sparing to create the muscle memory needed to instinctively move in the correct manner to control a person on the ground. Things like eye pokes and getting kicked in the balls are always possible but very unlikely, and not highly probable against an efficient grappler. These are not new ideas and we train to defend and prevent these common silly techniques that an untrained person may attempt.

I started training in 2010 and got my Black Belt in 2021 so its definitely a long journey and that's training 4-5 days per week.

So is it possible that some random tough guy would get the best of me in a street fight? Absolutely! Street fights are very different and I acknowledge that, however BJJ is predicated on street self defense so I would much rather go into a fight as a conditioned BJJ grappler vs going in with no training and simply relying on physical prowess.

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11879639)

After posting this thread, Youtube sent me another video about Alexander (Fedor's brother). It's interesting. According to the video, the boys had a rough life in USSR. Alexander got in trouble and went to jail, where they believe he got into a notorious gang of thieves/gangsters. He's tried a few times to straighten out and fly right and do the fighting thing, but it seems like he eventually gets drunk and does something stupid that gets him in trouble again. He goes back to jail. He denies the association with the baddies and crime and jail, but it seems like a certainty, and even Fedor has confirmed it despite what his brother says.

In college I worked in the stadium for several concerts and a wrestling match. I suspect your work is a bit more interesting.

Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 11879631)

^^^

I'm going to have to add a fourth exclamation point to your SUX!!!! rating, bub!

Originally Posted by upsscott (Post 11879668)

My son hates the idea of a street fight but his confidence takes the fear out of the equation. He said his main concern is a well placed sucker punch.

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 11879687)

Dammit! I'm gonna hafta try harder. Really hoping to achieve that five star rating...



Not trying to be snarky, or judgmental or anything, but I have to ask - what is it about him that even makes this a concern in the first place?

Originally Posted by upsscott (Post 11879995)

I’m not sure I understand your question. My son is a gentle giant. He’s a 6’4” 240lb special education teacher. If your wondering if he sits around trying to start street fights you’d be wrong. We’ve just talked about it hypothetically. I guess my final opinion would be that standing and banging is cool in the movies but in real life I’m trying to get the fight to the ground.

Originally Posted by Rodsrsr (Post 11878189)

the untrained guy now has a gun since this occurs "on the street" he shoots the MMA guy and wins. end of story.

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 11878214)

But, no, you very much appear as though you need to "win" some kind of an argument. Typical PPOT conversation with an uninformed, inexperienced contributor desperately trying to argue something with which he has no personal exposure. You have never experienced, never seen fights like those I have, and have tried to describe here. Yet you are absolutely God damned sure you know how it would go. I'm only trying to help, by providing perspective from someone who has seen this.

So drop the straw men, drop the assumptions, drop the veiled insults. They don't help your case. They just make you sound like kind of a dick...