A Scenario: You Never Leave

[Crowbob]

Well, the only person who would really, definitely know the AI-s was not a real person would be the real person the AI-s is imitating.

It seems to me that the real person after whom the AI-s is designed is not designing it to convince himself that the AI-s isn’t him. He knows it isn’t him. The AI-s was created to be convincing to other people that the AI-s is the real person.

[jyl]

Originally Posted by McLovin

Many might find it undesirable from a societal/public policy perspective for the same reasons that underlie the rule against perpetuities.

For sure. But technology brings lots of things that are undesirable, and not blocked.

[stevej37]

Buy a doll...an AI doll.

[cstreit]

I think you're absolutely right. ...but let me get a little dystopian with it.

Had a conversation with renowned futurist Ray Kurzweil at a conference once. He points to a potentially positive or grim future.

So at some point medical science will help us live longer - like MUCH longer. We will also have more direct access to things like data directly into our heads.

Now these life prolonging treatments will be very expensive - as will having your own AI self wired into your head. ..but for those that can afford it they will live longer to accumulate more wealth - and with the added intellectual power of their second self (or 100 selfs) they can be doing 100 things at once accelerating that.

So having the sum total of human knowledge direct to your brain plus living 200+ years could be amazing - but it could also create an even greater divide between the haves and the have-nots.

[jyl]

The divide is already unfathomable. An impoverished person scratching out a bare existence in Africa, and the folks arriving by private jet in Davos, are from different eons and worlds.

The scenario you described, it’ll be almost different species. Cro-Magnon vs homo sapiens.

[HobieMarty]

Far out man

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[Alan A]

Altered carbon writ large

[jyl]

Some initial effort along these lines started several years ago.

https://medium.com/s/story/artificial-intelligence-will-keep-our-loved-ones-alive-replika-ai-bot-google-duplex-2dc02eec55dc

Technology has advanced a lot since and continues to. The efforts described in the Medium article were based on very limited information on the person being simulated, because that person was dead before the AI was created.

Imagine Mr. Ultrawealthy sets up his AI-s at age 50, and spends the next 40 years talking with it, reminiscing, reacting, venting, musing, thinking out loud, while the AI-s absorbs all of his texts, emails, posts, photos, videos, documents, memos, conversations, and monitors everything he does in the real world - business, social, travel, private, public - via micro/camera and mic (remember Google Glass) while absorbing all the books, music, TV, movies, art he has ever read/heard/watched.

The AI-s would, I think, be a very, very convincing version of him.

[Noah930]

Originally Posted by Rusty Heap

I believe it was called the Transmorgifier. An Amazing device that unlocks the imagination.

https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1987/03/23

The Transmogrifier would change Calvin (or Hobbes) into another species. Like a tiger, frog, or pterodactyl.

The Duplicator came after that. Easy to confuse the two, as the Duplicator was the same cardboard box, but with "Transmogrifier" crossed out and "Duplicator" written in its place. Calvin made a duplicate of himself to do his homework so he could go out amd play. But the duplicate was the one who goofed off (and made even more duplicates) who only expressed Calvin's naughty side, getting him into all sorts of trouble he didn't even commit.

We read a lot of Calvin and Hobbes for bedtime stories in the Noah household.

[Noah930]

Transmogrifier:


Duplicator:

[jyl]

Well, an AI says a company needs a human director, at least.

"Q: are there any AI-driven companies with no human directors or executives

A: As of my knowledge cutoff in 2021, I am not aware of any AI-driven companies that have no human directors or executives. However, there are companies that have started to use AI in their decision-making processes and there are some companies that are run by AI with human oversight, but these companies typically still have human directors and executives.

It is important to note that, even if a company is run by AI, it is still legally required to have human directors or executives who are responsible for the company's actions. This is because AI systems are not legally recognized as individuals, and therefore cannot be held accountable for the company's decisions and actions in the same way that human directors or executives can be. Furthermore, AI systems are not capable of having legal rights such as ownership, they are considered as tools and not legal entities."

[Steve Carlton]

One of my favorite Star Trek episodes is "Requiem for Methuselah." A man discovers he's immortal and gains incredible knowledge and wealth over many centuries. Here's the whole episode- the best part starts around 34:50

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x77ld6l