Good-bye Tom ....

[KFC911]

You GOAT you....

It was a hoot watching you play

[rfuerst911sc]

Will be tough for anyone to beat his super bowl victories . He can now start his announcer career at Fox . Congratulations on a excellent career on the field .

[stevej37]

There are lots of other rumors around here about his next career. You can prob guess as to what.

Keep in mind...money is not an issue.

[astrochex]

Good riddance.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by astrochex

Good riddance.

LOL ..... if yer gonna hate .... hate the best ever

[stomachmonkey]

He always said he'd quit when it stopped being fun and this past season was definitely anything but fun.

[herr_oberst]

Originally Posted by stevej37

There are lots of other rumors around here about his next career. You can prob guess as to what.

Keep in mind...money is not an issue.

[monoflo]

He has all the stats-- Played for one of the All time great teams longer than anyone else--a big reason they were who they were. But .'''''.......

But for the sake of argument if you had one game and one guy to be your QB would it be TB.??
He did well in the modern era --- but how'd he be in the ERA of Johnny Unitas. When they routinely hit the QB after he let fly.

In todays game I'd have to really think about Mahomes.

And if say Marino in his youth was transplanted to the Patriots --would he not have been just as good if not better??? There are no right answers obviously.

[KFC911]

For years I thought Montana was the best ....
Then I thought Brady became his equal....
Then he played at the top of his game until he was 45 and won a few more SBs.

The modern QBs are just better than in decades past imo. Mahomes is special too ... and if he can perform at his level for 15+ more years and have even close to 7 rings...

Then we can talk

[monoflo]

I get it but the Steelers of the 70s were the greatest of all time. Yes they--the Pats- have more rings but those Steelers played against the best in the golden era of the NFl. Defense still mattered. They went from run centric to vertical passing.

the bias to offence has changed the game to the point I'm boarded watching. Of course I'm an old guy ---OK gotta get back to the home.

[URY914]

There seems to be a "golden era" in every sport and it's usually the era you remember as your personal golden era as well.

[stevej37]

I get it but the Lions of the 50s were the greatest of all time.
Alex Karras, Bobby Layne......

Go Mongo!

[Por_sha911]

It is sad when an elite athlete doesn't step down when they are at the top (or shortly after they start to decline). It is downright pitiful when they go out like Brady did as a whiny drama queen who's antics are better suited for Jerry Springer or the National Inquirer. He destroyed the lasting memory of his career.

As with Crosby, great player but doesn't improve the class average of humanity.

[stomachmonkey]

I think the game, like in most athletic competitions, has changed because the athletes have changed.

They are generally bigger (and at the same time leaner), faster, more agile, just all around better physical specimens on both sides of the ball.

That is going to change how the game gets played.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

I think the game, like in most athletic competitions, has changed because the athletes have changed.

They are generally bigger (and at the same time leaner), faster, more agile, just all around better physical specimens on both sides of the ball.

That is going to change how the game gets played.

^^^^ This .... without question. The top QBs and receivers routinely make plays every week that no one did back in the 70s. With maybe an exception or two. The passing accuracy, the speed, size, and one handed catches.

And the linemen are beasts ... big, fast, strong, agile beasts .

The game changed because today's players are better.... and if you don't like today's football .... you MUST be a Steeler's fan !

I keed .... I like defense too

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by Por_sha911

It is sad when an elite athlete doesn't step down when they are at the top (or shortly after they start to decline). It is downright pitiful when they go out like Brady did as a whiny drama queen who's antics are better suited for Jerry Springer or the National Inquirer. He destroyed the lasting memory of his career.

As with Crosby, great player but doesn't improve the class average of humanity.

Brady still had "it" ... he was on a really crappy team that couldn't run at all, with limited support imo. But I'm glad to see him retire .... nothing more to prove.... jmho. Only in your mind did he destroy his legacy .

[Norm K]

Originally Posted by KC911

The game changed because today's players are better.... and if you don't like today's football .... you MUST be a Steeler's fan !
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I don't think today's players are better athletes, but they are certainly the beneficiaries of modern training, diet, medicine, etc.

Good luck convincing me that, given access to all of the things modern-day players enjoy, guys like Wilt Chamberlain, Bob Lilly, Ted Williams and so many others wouldn't be as dominant today as they were so many decades ago.

The greats would be great in any age ... period.

_

[stevej37]

^^^ Wilt still holds a lot of records.

[KFC911]

There are athletic exceptions, but over-all there is no comparison.... bigger, taller, faster, stronger.

Wilt was a 7'er amongst smaller competition and he and Bill Russell would be just fine today.

But Wilt wouldn't score 100 points and miss 25 free throws in a game either

[stevej37]

Wilt claimed he slept with 20,000 women
During that timeframe, he saw Wilt go to his room with 23 different women. Wilt used this 2.3 per day figure to extrapolate his number of sexual partners over the years and arrive at the humongous, barely believable figure of 20,000 women who he'd shared a bed with.