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dad911 02-11-2023 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 11920530)

Can you coat that? Could there be a niche market in custom 'grillz'??

WPOZZZ 02-11-2023 01:36 PM

Oh man, a few months ago I had a root canal and of course a temp crown, or should I say crowns. I ended up cracking them and needed a new temp a couple times. lol My dentist I've had since I was a kid, was out and his daughter was working. She was my friend from high school and chastised me. :(

Racerbvd 02-11-2023 02:35 PM

Well, mine broke today :(
So looks like I have to go back Monday. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1676158465.jpg
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LEAKYSEALS951 02-11-2023 03:06 PM

Shaun-

If this got knocked loose because of the extractions, and it hasn't fallen off before, it should clean up and hold on just fine. That looks like a zirconia crown, which is good stuff, but can be a challenge to bond. Overall, I think you're good to go.
Just get it cleaned out and recemented asap.

Talking shop- kind of hard to tell, but overall looks legit, looks like a good prep convergence, but, I think there might not be a lot of wall height, which can be a real issue on second molars. Basically, there's not a lot of room back there, so the stump of the tooth ends up real short, which make holding the crown on a real challenge. Not much one can do about that. What I usually see, is that patients can't open their mouths wide enough to hold the bur straight up, so the dentist comes in at an angle to prep the tooth, leading to way overconverged preps, which leads to problems, especially with the newer materials. We were taught 3-5 degrees. Newer materials 4-6 degrees. Back there, I've seen stuff converged at 45+ degrees. Ridiculous.

Generally, when lack of space happens to me, I shorten my diamond bur shanks by cutting off some length to make "shorties" to fit back there. I'll also use pedo handpieces if there's one around to get things to fit. - but I don't think this was an issue in your case. Looks like they did pretty good.


Byron....Yes, Byron... Dude that thing is wafer thin. Speaking of wafer thin- after last night I just want pics of the dental assistant! (perhaps at the range):D

MBAtarga 02-11-2023 03:17 PM

I had my checkup/cleaning last week. Xrays and dentist found an area of concern between the gum line and my crown which was installed about 20 years ago (different dentist.) He wants to take care of it now before it becomes a deep enough cavity to get to the nerve (then a root canal would be needed per him.) I get to experience the joy of crown removal and installation of a temp until the permanent crown gets made.

stevej37 02-11-2023 03:40 PM

^^^ I've had that done before. As long as he doesn't have to do a root canal...it's a very easy, non-painful procedure. Two visits that are easier than having a cavity filled.

Shaun @ Tru6 02-11-2023 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951 (Post 11920601)
Shaun-

If this got knocked loose because of the extractions, and it hasn't fallen off before, it should clean up and hold on just fine. That looks like a zirconia crown, which is good stuff, but can be a challenge to bond. Overall, I think you're good to go.
Just get it cleaned out and recemented asap.

Talking shop- kind of hard to tell, but overall looks legit, looks like a good prep convergence, but, I think there might not be a lot of wall height, which can be a real issue on second molars. Basically, there's not a lot of room back there, so the stump of the tooth ends up real short, which make holding the crown on a real challenge. Not much one can do about that. What I usually see, is that patients can't open their mouths wide enough to hold the bur straight up, so the dentist comes in at an angle to prep the tooth, leading to way overconverged preps, which leads to problems, especially with the newer materials. We were taught 3-5 degrees. Newer materials 4-6 degrees. Back there, I've seen stuff converged at 45+ degrees. Ridiculous.

Generally, when lack of space happens to me, I shorten my diamond bur shanks by cutting off some length to make "shorties" to fit back there. I'll also use pedo handpieces if there's one around to get things to fit. - but I don't think this was an issue in your case. Looks like they did pretty good.


Byron....Yes, Byron... Dude that thing is wafer thin. Speaking of wafer thin- after last night I just want pics of the dental assistant! (perhaps at the range):D

Thanks LS, I am fairly certain this hasn't come off. I have 16 crowns and IIRC only one or 2 have popped off in 4 years. They are all cubic zirconia. I ground off all the enamel on my teeth so this was a preventive measure. I love them!

The dentist who did all of them and front veneers because "while you are in there" is a 35+ year old friend. He's retired now but we trade services, today I was at his house putting in a new fuel line and filter in his Tacoma. He's a great guy, we also share rowing as a passion which started our friendship.

I'll call the dentist who bought his practice, on Monday to get it epoxied back in. Thanks for your help!

WPOZZZ 02-11-2023 07:38 PM

I had a permanent crown come off years ago. Went to my local Long's Drugs/CVS and got some temp crown cement. It worked great! Almost to great as my dentist had a helluva time getting the crown off.

gregpark 02-11-2023 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11920527)
^^^ My dentist, and I'm sure many others, shake the gum area when injecting the novacaine.
It makes the jab less noticeable.

That works but not for the roof of your mouth. That shot isn't so fun

stevej37 02-12-2023 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gregpark (Post 11920776)
That works but not for the roof of your mouth. That shot isn't so fun


I think I've had about every dental procedure (including gum tissue graftiing) done over the years.
But I have never heard of Novocain in the roof of the mouth...nor do I want to have it.

stevej37 02-12-2023 05:16 PM

What could a shot of Novocain in the roof of the mouth freeze??

A930Rocket 02-12-2023 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11920527)
^^^ My dentist, and I'm sure many others, shake the gum area when injecting the novacaine.
It makes the jab less noticeable.

Before I get the Novocain, they put a Q-tip with some bubble gum tasting crap in there to pre-numb it. Then when they inject the Novocain, he shakes the cheek and the assistant pats my arm to distract me. There’s never been a problem with shots for me

GH85Carrera 02-13-2023 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cantdrv55 (Post 11920083)
Did it come out the other end?

I told my son that I’m going to bequeath my gold crown to him in my will.

For one of my new gold crowns, the dentist was test fitting it before any glue was used. She then dropped it right into the back of my throat. I gagged, and reflex swallowed. It was gone. She insisted I had to go get a chest X-ray to to 100% sure in was not in my lungs.

Think of the actual logistics and process of retrieving the crown. You can't really um go into the toilet, the crown would drop to the bottom of the bowl and be hard or impossible to get access to it. So into a bucket and sort through that? Do you first wipe and clean up, or just so mining. Then you "get" to clean up the bucket, and then....

Nope, I ain't gonna sift through that. Not gonna do it, it is just not worth that.

stevej37 02-13-2023 07:52 AM

^^^ That's the main reason that I don't like getting dental work done.
Swallowing something like that...I'd do the same and just let it go and forget it.
Inhaling something, especially if it's some of the filling material that they pack in a cavity, can be big trouble.

I've wondered why someone doesn't come up with a screen of some sort that would fit in the back of your mouth. (with tabs to pull it out)

GH85Carrera 02-13-2023 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11921842)
^^^ That's the main reason that I don't like getting dental work done.
Swallowing something like that...I'd do the same and just let it go and forget it.
Inhaling something, especially if it's some of the filling material that they pack in a cavity, can be big trouble.

I've wondered why someone doesn't come up with a screen of some sort that would fit in the back of your mouth. (with tabs to pull it out)

They have a rubber shield that works fine. She used it the second try. I presume it cost a lot like most medical equipment, and it is cheaper to risk not dropping the crown.

It is a weird sensation to have it shoved into my mouth and have my tongue trapped back there.

john70t 02-13-2023 08:26 AM

Dental Dam is what it's called. Ask for it if not sure.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1676309133.jpg

stevej37 02-13-2023 08:32 AM

^^^ that looks like a good solution.
My dentist has never suggested it.
If it was just him packing in the metal, I wouldn't worry.
But sometimes he has a new assistant handing him the stuff.

911 Rod 02-13-2023 08:47 AM

I had my crown come off chewing gum a couple of weeks ago. Luckily I felt it right away and grabbed it. I was freaking out about damaging what was left in my mouth until I had it put back in.
I asked about a warrantee ( 3 years old) and he laughed. I said I guess you need to pay for new tires in the R8. I don't think he laughed.
I had a root canal through the crown and had the wisdom tooth beside it pulled so it had a hard life.

stevej37 02-13-2023 12:40 PM

^^^ When you think of all the work/damage a tooth takes....it's no wonder that they break down.
Dentistry today is a lot better than it was when I was a kid.

What is a root canal through the crown?

911 Rod 02-13-2023 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11922238)

What is a root canal through the crown?

They drill through the crown just like they would with a regular tooth.


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