What SUV? Wait, What’s An SUV? My Query.

[Paul T]

Originally Posted by look 171

I hear too many scary things about BMWs, Benz, and even Porsche having a bit of trouble with their SUVs. But none with Toyota and that's why there's the Toyota truck tax. People who has owned them know how good they really are. Body on frame is a requirement for me when it comes to a vehicle like it since we occasionally run trails out in the desert or explore the local hills.

My wife has a Cayenne, and I think we're on our 4th transfer case? Could be 5th, I've lost count...thankfully all covered by Porsche, but disappointing nonetheless. Other than that, it's been a great vehicle, TC has been the only issue. Little over 100k miles for reference.

[Otter74]

Not helpful to the OP: SUV is and always has been a marketing term, which is why its definition has become rather...loose. IIRC it was coined in about the mid-70s by a marketing guy at AMC to describe the Wagoneer.

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by LWJ

A note. I had a 91 3/4 ton Fleet service suburban. Which was pretty awesome. You could sleep two in back. It was a total zombie apocalypse rig. Bought for a whopping $850 when gas was spiking.

Until I was rear-ended. Solid frame = lots of damage in my neck/spine.

I’m mostly healed but I sold the rig for scrap, because it seemed very unsafe. No airbag. No energy absorption. No antilock brakes.

Some of us grew up driving 60s VW bugs and busses.
Anyone interested in a 1 owner, 2002 Lexus
Complete service history and always serviced at Lexus.
$9,500 takes it, located in Florida.

[cantdrv55]

Has anyone suggested a first gen Toyota Sequoia yet? I recently went looking for a Land Cruiser to fit my budget but came up short. The cheapest I found was a 2000 LC with about 240k miles for $14000 on the SF Bay Area. Then I looked for alternatives on YouTube and came across a huge following for the Sequoia or “Tree” on YouTube speak. Anyway, that’s what I bought.

Here’s my 2003 Sequoia Limited with all the bells and whistles including 4wd. This already had the lift and wheels installed. I put BF Goodrich KO2s on and had the timing belt, water pump replaced. I changed the tie roads and ball joints myself. The SUV cost me only $4500 but it does have 223,000 miles on the ODO though the 4.7 liter V8 has a reputation for being a million mile motor. It’s the same engine in the LC, Lexus GX470, FJ and Lexus 470.

[911 Rod]

A true SUV has a ladder frame and yes stick with Toyota. But I'm a Toyota guy.
Budget? It always comes down to budget.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

I highly recommend a 957 Cayenne GTS.

I've owned 50 cars since 15. If I could only have one car for the rest of my life, it would be my 2010 GTS. Hands down.

It does EVERYTHING. Very well if not excellent.

[ZAMIRZ]

You didn't mention price range, but if you aren't in a rush the R1S pretty much meets or exceeds all of your criteria easily.

https://rivian.com/r1s

https://www.caranddriver.com/rivian/r1s

Disclaimer: I work for Rivian and have owned an R1T for about 1.5 years and just about 25K miles, ask me anything!

[1990C4S]

Originally Posted by ZAMIRZ

Disclaimer: I work for Rivian and have owned an R1T for about 1.5 years and just about 25K miles, ask me anything!

Why can't you build more vehicles?

[1990C4S]

Originally Posted by ZAMIRZ

Disclaimer: I work for Rivian and have owned an R1T for about 1.5 years and just about 25K miles, ask me anything!

Why can't you build more vehicles?

[Shaun @ Tru6]

I'm changing my answer to Rivian just to help the stock price. What a tumble it's been.

[wildthing]

I was looking at Land Cruisers from the late 90's to early 2000's and they're holding value.

I wish I could get one but couldn't justify the prices to replace an aging 2011 Sienna with an older Toyota.

I'm still trying to convince my wife to replace it with a used Macan. Or maybe an SQ5, but I'm partial to the Macan of course.

[LWJ]

If you want a 100 series LandCruiser, consider the Lexus clone.

Same car with the suspension being the only difference. LARGE price discount.

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by LWJ

If you want a 100 series LandCruiser, consider the Lexus clone.

Same car with the suspension being the only difference. LARGE price discount.

Great advice. Again, the Series 80 works for me and it was my buddies...but I would take a long look at the Series 100/Lexus

[ZAMIRZ]

Originally Posted by 1990C4S

Why can't you build more vehicles?

Workin on it! If you're in the Bay Area or L.A. let me know, happy to let you take mine for a spin

[Sarc]

Nothing but praise for our '03 LC. Coming up on 220k and keeping my eyes peeled for a low-mile 00-02 LX470.

[cantdrv55]

LC and LX470 are very close in price here in the SF area. Around $14k for 200k+ miles

[911boost]

While not a 100 Series, I absolutely love my 200 Series LC.

Have about 20,000 miles on my 2021 and I do not plan on ever letting it go.

[Dan J]

Late LC80 FTW

[look 171]

Originally Posted by ZAMIRZ

Workin on it! If you're in the Bay Area or L.A. let me know, happy to let you take mine for a spin

LA? Aren't you from LA and use to work for Dave in N Hollywood? Same guy?

[MMiller]

GX460... It's a 4runner with a V8, a better interior and the same gas mileage.