Social Security question

[Joe Bob]

I turned 65 in June. Does SS send me a statement (nothing yet). Can I can get one on line or can my preparer find me one?

[Sooner or later]

It is simple to set up on line.

https://www.ssa.gov/onlineservices/?gclid=CjwKCAjw_MqgBhAGEiwAnYOAekCVMCw1rWvGbgvzixL Y-lNveCc903s3HtBJWhA8-7Zic_v-DogpARoCEpsQAvD_BwE

[rockfan4]

If you are receiving benefits they should send you a 1099-SSA in January.
If you didn't get it, sign in to My Social Security and print a copy.

https://www.ssa.gov/myaccount/replacement-SSA-1099.html

[porsche930dude]

Pretty sure you should wait till your 70 and you get like double $ which makes sense if you plan on living a while.

[jcommin]

Originally Posted by Sooner or later

It is simple to set up on line.

https://www.ssa.gov/onlineservices/?gclid=CjwKCAjw_MqgBhAGEiwAnYOAekCVMCw1rWvGbgvzixL Y-lNveCc903s3HtBJWhA8-7Zic_v-DogpARoCEpsQAvD_BwE

^this. You should get a full history of your wages and SS. They have payouts at 65, 67 and at 70. So you can plan. I elected to take SS at 70 and called them because I had questions. They were very helpful.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by porsche930dude

Pretty sure you should wait till your 70 and you get like double $ which makes sense if you plan on living a while.

As others have posted, the online site is very comprehensive and excellent imo. Everyone's situation, income streams, marital status, etc. are different too.... I opted to start drawing a few months ago at 62 after weighing the options and running the numbers as they applied to me.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by jcommin

^this. You should get a full history of your wages and SS. They have payouts at 65, 67 and at 70. So you can plan. I elected to take SS at 70 and called them because I had questions. They were very helpful.

I get snail mail from SS periodically with my full working history, and I've been getting those for years. I'm still minimum 10 years off from being able to start SS.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by porsche930dude

Pretty sure you should wait till your 70 and you get like double $ which makes sense if you plan on living a while.

when I look at my current projected benefit, it's roughly 2.4k @62, 3.5k @65, 4.5k @70 monthly.

[GH85Carrera]

SS will not just start, you have to file for it and tell them when you want it to start. If your family health history is for the men to live to 85 or more, wait until you hit age 70. If your dad died at age 71, start at 65.

There are formulas out there that will show how long you have to live past 70 is you delay to get the same amount of money back. Starting at 65, you are getting money for 5 years more than waiting.

My wife's mom just turned 90, and several of her women relatives made it into the late 90s. It makes sense to wait until she hit 70. You have to do the math, and determine when to start taking the money.

I looked at my SS earning for my lifetime on the SS web site. It showed one year, and zero earnings. I called and after a almost 2 hour wait on hold, I talked to a very helpful man. He said he put a not on the records, and asked I print out paper copies of several items, and to drop them at the local SS office drop box. It took over a year for them to change my statement to reflect that year of earnings.

You really don't ever want to try to go to your local SS office in person. It makes the DMV look like a really happy place.

Of course you have to pay income taxes on your SS benefits. You can tell them to not take out any taxes and then just add that to the end of year taxes you pay, or they will take out a percentage that you can pick so the taxes get paid right out of the benefits. They will also deduct the medicare payments right from the retirement amounts. And they don't send checks, only direct deposit.

[Sooner or later]

In 3 years I haven't paid a dime on my social security benefits.

I make 40k this year from SS. Half of that, 20k, added to any other taxable income must be less than 25k to avoid taxes on SS.

So, I pull under 5k a year from taxable sources (non IRA interest/div, withdrawals) and then for any other additional financial needs I withdraw from my Roth which is not used in the SS taxable calculation.

I will be paying taxes this year since CLR went private and I my stock was a forced sale. Nearly 200k in cap gains hit this year. Chit happens.

Be smart. Plan ahead. Save money.

[GH85Carrera]

I own an active aerial photography company and we are making money. The IRS is my silent partner in the profits, they are never here working on projects on the weekends, or late at night, but they want their share of the profits.

[KFC911]

^^^^ This (what SOL posted) .... and there is no "one size fits all" answer. SS is gravy $$$ I never counted on, don't really need, and the early payouts are invested too... at a nice guaranteed return which moves the "break even point" much later.

Being single, the gov would just love for me to croak .... Poof .... gone! Both me and the payouts ....

Lotsa ways to play this imo.... consider the variables as they apply to your situation.

[Sooner or later]

I understand that situation. If someone is still earning significant income it might be wise to delay taking SS as long as possible. Depends on each individual.

I was only adding context to your "off course you have to pay income taxes on your SS benefits". That is not always the case.

[Crowbob]

Originally Posted by porsche930dude

Pretty sure you should wait till your 70 and you get like double $ which makes sense if you plan on living a while.

Not necessarily.

The actuarials at SSA know what they’re doing. For most people, that is people who are not at either ends of the lifespan curve, over the course of their lifetime benefit amount it makes very little difference when you begin drawing.

As such, the decision for most people should be whether or not they need the money now or will they need the money later.

If you wait, the checks are bigger but you don’t get as a many. If you draw early, the checks are smaller but you get more of them.

[Sooner or later]

Correct, Crowbob.

[craigster59]

Originally Posted by Sooner or later

I understand that situation. If someone is still earning significant income it might be wise to delay taking SS as long as possible. Depends on each individual.
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What is the total income you can earn per year without affecting your SS income? Can you work, say as a consultant and bill through an LLC that you established?

[jhynesrockmtn]

What they said on SS. You set up your medicare right? If you didn't, that can be a problem.

[Cairo94507]

I guess it depends on where you live. I am in Auburn, CA and the Social Security office was terrific. I had a 5 minute wait and they addressed my request immediately.

[TimT]

What is the total income you can earn per year without affecting your SS income?

I just retired last December, and have found a financial adviser whom I really like to help me with rolling over my 401K AND ESOP, and hopefully making them grow.. He mentioned if you earn over 20K while collecting SS your monthly payment will be reduced.

Nice disincentive...

So I got a part time off the books gig that I like

[Sooner or later]

Combined income is defined as:
Your adjusted gross income
+ Nontaxable interest
+ ½ of your Social Security benefits

https://www.ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/planner/taxes.html#:~:text=between%20%2425%2C000%20and%20% 2434%2C000%2C%20you,your%20benefits%20may%20be%20t axable.

Some of you have to pay federal income taxes on your Social Security benefits. This usually happens only if you have other substantial income in addition to your benefits (such as wages, self-employment, interest, dividends and other taxable income that must be reported on your tax return).

You will pay tax on only 85 percent of your Social Security benefits, based on Internal Revenue Service (IRS) rules. If you:

file a federal tax return as an "individual" and your combined income* is between $25,000 and $34,000, you may have to pay income tax on up to 50 percent of your benefits.

more than $34,000, up to 85 percent of your benefits may be taxable.

file a joint return, and you and your spouse have a combined income* that is between $32,000 and $44,000, you may have to pay income tax on up to 50 percent of your benefits.

more than $44,000, up to 85 percent of your benefits may be taxable.