This new shingle roof doesn't look right to me.....

[Superman]

I bet they are made as a continuous band, and then cut mechanically to a standard width. This is why some of the architectural panels are narrow at the edges of some shingles. That's just where the cut happened.

[stevej37]

^^^ I looked close at mine this am when I took the pic.
Where there is a narrow strip of shingle...there is no separation from the one below. It looks to be impossible to slide anything between them. So..yes, it looks to be made that way.

[Black968]

As far as shingles, they are the only way too go. There are only two points that can curl and potentially leak. All the other points have a substrate underneath them. The Dow Corning Arch/Fibreglass are 40 year warranty I believe. 3 Tab/Asphalt shingles should be outlawed, 20 - 25 year three tab last 12 years if your lucky.

[stevej37]

I think they look nice because of the texture it gives.
I would def use them again.

[island911]

Originally Posted by herr_oberst

If that was a complete tear-off, the shingles should lay pretty flat. If the building code in you area allows multiple layers of shingles, (we can have three layers here in PDX) then the new roof will telegraph whatever fluctuations the old roof has....

This ^

I just stripped off three layers on a garage and put down the same OC TruDefinition (different color)

I did it myself because roofers... bad experiences. They make a huge effn mess.

Anyway, the way some of those are butted together - not pretty.

I took time to find shingle/panels that would play well together.

[island911]

Originally Posted by Black968

As far as shingles, they are the only way too go. There are only two points that can curl and potentially leak. All the other points have a substrate underneath them. The Dow Corning Arch/Fibreglass are 40 year warranty I believe. 3 Tab/Asphalt shingles should be outlawed, 20 - 25 year three tab last 12 years if your lucky.

Spot on. And heavy AF. (thinking dump costs when they go)

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by Black968

As far as shingles, they are the only way too go. There are only two points that can curl and potentially leak. All the other points have a substrate underneath them. The Dow Corning Arch/Fibreglass are 40 year warranty I believe. 3 Tab/Asphalt shingles should be outlawed, 20 - 25 year three tab last 12 years if your lucky.

All the houses in my 'hood were built in '91ish.... some had new roofs installed starting 10-12 years ago.... mine are the 3 tab/asphalt type and I've never had one raise up, and nary a leak .... I'm paying attention to this thread tho'...
... 32 years is a good run

[Arizona_928]

I worked summers during high school roofing in Phoenix... When one was starting out shingling we would put them on the back of the house to learn and have the competent guys on the front of the house to make sure everything looked good from the street!

Op looks like they are trying to go too fast.

[gregpark]

Originally Posted by Zeke

@greg, do you see any steps? I can't from his pics.

The vent flashing is probably stepped with the roofing felt, hidden by the shingles. Still be water tight

[herr_oberst]

Originally Posted by gregpark

The vent flashing is probably stepped with the roofing felt, hidden by the shingles. Still be water tight

I hope you're right, because it just looks like there's a big gob of Henry's puddled up in front of that closest stack. I've never seen vents flashed under the shingles using just felt..

I'd be talking to the contractor before the check clears to see what he says about his reasoning for doing things that way - and making sure he guarantees his work.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by gregpark

The vent flashing is probably stepped with the roofing felt, hidden by the shingles. Still be water tight

Why can't they just do it like the instructions say and overlap the first shingle below the stack with a roof jack?

Oh well, if it was inspected then that's that. If it wasn't inspected then Baz maybe got fooked.

[Arizona_928]

Originally Posted by herr_oberst

I hope you're right, because it just looks like there's a big gob of Henry's puddled up in front of that closest stack. I've never seen vents flashed under the shingles using just felt..

I'd be talking to the contractor before the check clears to see what he says about his reasoning for doing things that way - and making sure he guarantees his work.

+1


Vent jacks are kinda pricy....


And that won't be water tight in 10 years.

[Arizona_928]

Proper install technique

[Black968]

Originally Posted by KC911

All the houses in my 'hood were built in '91ish.... some had new roofs installed starting 10-12 years ago.... mine are the 3 tab/asphalt type and I've never had one raise up, and nary a leak .... I'm paying attention to this thread tho'...
... 32 years is a good run

You have had an extremely good run. In Toronto area with extreme hot/cold they don't do well.

[Baz]

Thanks to all for your comments and input. This place rocks!

My friend who is in the business - general contractor and also roofing contractor, although I think he let that part of his business go - is going to meet with me at Mom's house tomorrow early afternoon.

This is more than I expected and will provide me with the best result as far as determining how to move forward.

I will post a followup with his take.

BTW, this was a complete tear off, re-nailing of entire deck, new underlayment, plus ice and water shield as secondary, new vents, lead boots, new ridge vent, new drip edge, and the shingles. So a complete re-do of everything.

The fact it was all done in one day is what concerns me along with the appearance of the shingles as pictured.

But we shall see what my friend says....

Thanks again!

[Arizona_928]

Gable roofs can be knocked out in a day. Especially if you don't have an AC unit, or lots of things to shingle around.

You paid for your vents, but we don't see them. Lol

[herr_oberst]

They can still flash the vents without roaching the shingles.

[flatbutt]

roaching?

[herr_oberst]

wreck, destroy, mutilate..

[Baz]

Originally Posted by Arizona_928

Gable roofs can be knocked out in a day. Especially if you don't have an AC unit, or lots of things to shingle around.

You paid for your vents, but we don't see them. Lol

There are 2 vents, both at the apex of the two main roof tops.......



And yes, I realize a roof can be knocked out in one day. Mine is a gable and took only 3 days and that was tear off of old shingles, plywood repair, dry in, and new roof using standing seam aluminum panels. It was a crew of 4 guys only.

At my Mom's house, my neighbor said there was an "army of workers" - his words.

The job was called off the day before due to rain and I didn't realize it was re-scheduled for the next day until end of day after it was done.

It was actually Tuesday, not Monday as I first stated.

Regardless of all that, it's the finished product that counts, of course.