Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12003250)

my old '88 911 would redline in 5th.

hitting 5800rpm (out of 6200) in 5th with the targa top off is LOUD.

150 in the boxster is pretty uneventful by comparison.

Or that's what my imagination tells me.

Originally Posted by gacook (Post 12003266)

had my best friend in the car with me. He said his prius felt like it was going to rattle apart once he hit 110...160 felt like nothing in the z--just watching the scenery whiz by. Our other friends got to the hotel about an hour after we were sitting by the pool. :d

Originally Posted by Rusty Heap (Post 12002785)

damn, tell me video game upbringing wasn't involved

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 12003352)

My Maserati does one-eighty-five.

Originally Posted by Norm K (Post 12003062)

Gotta say, if you're going to try to hit speeds like that, I-5 near 217 at 12:20 AM would be a pretty good place to do it. Wide open, great visibility and a long downhill run whether heading north or south.

Yes, the kid might be an idiot - kind of synonymous with being 19 - and might need some time in jail to think about it, but the truth is that what he did, relatively speaking, is probably no worse than others here have done at some point in their past.

If you're in your 60s or 70s, did you ever hammer the throttle on your Roadrunner (or Mustang, GTO, 442 etc ...) until you hit 115-120? On a (presumably) empty stretch of freeway, what's safer, a worse than stock (which your muscle car at the time probably was) 1968 Roadrunner at 120mph or a 2016 M3 at 176?

To be clear, this kid needs to pay an appropriate price for his recklessness but (again, relatively speaking) I'm not ready to brand him as being any worse than kids from earlier eras.

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Originally Posted by zakthor (Post 12003449)

Come on, he is 19. Before age 22 absolutely every time I tried a friend's motorbike I headed to the freeway to go as fast as I could. Memories of being super stupid. Just about lost it on a vfr750. I stopped riding motorbikes when I was 22 because I became mature enough to realize I couldn't control myself.

Originally Posted by ADDvanced (Post 12003456)

Right? So many attempts to demonize young people by old people. When I was 20 I would hit 120 regularly, hit almost 150 out in South Dakota at 3am. Was fun. Harmed nobody.

Originally Posted by ADDvanced (Post 12003505)

But those 50-60 year olds were also previously 17-25 idiots....

Originally Posted by zakthor (Post 12003449)

Come on, he is 19. Before age 22 absolutely every time I tried a friend's motorbike I headed to the freeway to go as fast as I could. Memories of being super stupid. Just about lost it on a vfr750. I stopped riding motorbikes when I was 22 because I became mature enough to realize I couldn't control myself.

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12003480)

Kids are idiots that take crazy risks. I suspect people that take crazy risks get away with it most of the time. The problem is that as a kid, the risks are often far higher than a similar risk that may be taken by an adult. Driving like a moron in heavy traffic is a crazy risk. My guess is that the amount of 17-25 years olds that take that risk vs 50-60 year olds that take the same risk is very different. That's because the 50-60 year olds are more aware of the possible outcomes.