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A930Rocket 08-05-2023 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 12061052)

I see what happened. With 8mb, they ran out of memory.

fisher22 08-05-2023 01:25 PM

And just like that we’re under 300 to go.

Rusty Heap 08-05-2023 02:03 PM

I'm a scuba diver.

we're at 15 psi ambient on the earth crust due to the pressure of the atmosphere above us.


when you dive, every 33 feet deep adds one more atmosphere


My deepest scuba dive is 150 feet in the Blue Hole of Belize.

As a open air circuit diver, THATS FRIGGIN DEEP, and you only have ~5-10 minutes of bottom time.


And have to wait 2-3 hours surface time to "evaporate" the built up nitrogen in your body.

fisher22 08-05-2023 08:40 PM

http://www.msn.com/en-us/finance/-companies/oceangate-the-company-behind-the-doomed-titanic-sub-has-appointed-an-investment-banker-as-its-new-ceo-to-lead-it-through-ongoing-investigations/ar-AA1ePe1b?ocid=sapphireappshare

unclebilly 08-17-2023 08:46 PM

Investigators conduction DNA testing on human remains found inside Titan submersible…

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/titan-human-remains-dna-update-july-25-1.6915962

Good grief… what’s next? I guess the USCG is leading the investigation.

flatbutt 08-18-2023 05:09 AM

Gawd what a grisly job.

Zeke 08-18-2023 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by fisher22 (Post 12061103)
And just like that we’re under 300 to go.

700 was enough.

fisher22 08-18-2023 06:12 AM

Apparently it was.

jyl 08-18-2023 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by unclebilly (Post 12070441)
Investigators conduction DNA testing on human remains found inside Titan submersible…

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/titan-human-remains-dna-update-july-25-1.6915962

Good grief… what’s next? I guess the USCG is leading the investigation.

Is this consistent with the idea that the remains were fragmentary - not whole or mostly whole bodies?

What I've read is that decomposition and scavenging are both slow at great depth. One article had comments from a French doctor who examined bodies recovered from two airliner crashes in 2009 where the wreckage was found at 13,000 ft depth and bodies were recovered by robotic vehicles that went into the fuselages. "Perich told Newsweek bodies he had seen that had been brought up from 400 bars of pressure "presented an exceptional state of preservation." This was "due to the absence of oxygen, light and current at this depth and a temperature of the order of 2 to 3 degrees [Celsius, or 35-37F], allowing good preservation of the corpses." " The airline crash victims did not, of course, experience near-instant implosion.

So for the CG to both not know whose remains it has and still be calling them "presumed" human remains suggests, perhaps, that they are more like bits and pieces?

GH85Carrera 08-18-2023 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 12070569)
Is this consistent with the idea that the remains were fragmentary - not whole or mostly whole bodies?

What I've read is that decomposition and scavenging are both slow at great depth. One article had comments from a French doctor who examined bodies recovered from two airliner crashes in 2009 where the wreckage was found at 13,000 ft depth and bodies were recovered by robotic vehicles that went into the fuselages. "Perich told Newsweek bodies he had seen that had been brought up from 400 bars of pressure "presented an exceptional state of preservation." This was "due to the absence of oxygen, light and current at this depth and a temperature of the order of 2 to 3 degrees [Celsius, or 35-37F], allowing good preservation of the corpses." " The airline crash victims did not, of course, experience near-instant implosion.

So for the CG to both not know whose remains it has and still be calling them "presumed" human remains suggests, perhaps, that they are more like bits and pieces?

The USAF tries to recover the bodies of air crew after a crash. Often in very hard impacts and fires all they find is as little as a foot or other body part, the rest is just gone. One human foot is enough for them to have a full funeral.

The victims in Maui are burned to just bones, and in some cases the bones will be scattered by the debris of the house falling on them. The bones will be nearly cremated. They will have a really hard time identifying the dead.

Implosion is a bad way to die, but it beats most cancer deaths, or ALS.

unclebilly 08-18-2023 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 12070880)
Implosion is a bad way to die, but it beats most cancer deaths, or ALS.

Truth.

jyl 08-18-2023 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by unclebilly (Post 12070896)
Truth.

Other than the (credible? or not?) reports that there was some warning of problems, I have been thinking that the Titan occupants died painlessly and instantly, excited at being just about to see the Titanic. Better than dying in your sleep.

stevej37 08-18-2023 07:20 PM

What happens if they can't identify the dna from one or more of the said occupants?

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fisher22 08-19-2023 11:18 AM

Now I want to watch a few episodes of Twilight Zone. Remember the William Shatner one?
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=william+shatner+twilight+zone&&view=detai l&mid=EF6EAE032A4CA43022F4EF6EAE032A4CA43022F4&&FO RM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dwilliam%2520 shatner%2520twilight%2520zone%26qs%3DMM%26form%3DQ BVR%26%3D%2525eManage%2520Your%2520Search%2520Hist ory%2525E%26sp%3D1%26ghc%3D1%26lq%3D0%26pq%3Dwilli am%2520shatner%2520twi%26sc%3D10-19%26cvid%3DEEE2AF57494D41AA8B50DCFE2D647E2A

stevej37 08-19-2023 11:35 AM

^^^ Yes! A true classic. :)
I think about that episode almost every time I have flown at night.

pmax 08-19-2023 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 12070880)
Implosion is a bad way to die, but it beats most cancer deaths, or ALS.

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unclebilly 09-01-2023 07:37 PM

This is great. Some of the salvage crews are explaining what they went through…

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12471019/rescuers-titan-submersible-oceangate-debris-titanic-dead.html

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A930Rocket 10-10-2023 05:29 PM

More pieces recovered, including human remains.

CNN

The remaining debris from the Titan submersible that suffered a catastrophic implosion en route to the wreckage of the Titanic in June has been recovered – including presumed human remains, the US Coast Guard said Tuesday.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/10/us/titan-submersible-titanic-coast-guard-recovery/index.html



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masraum 10-10-2023 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 12106861)
More pieces recovered, including human remains.

CNN

The remaining debris from the Titan submersible that suffered a catastrophic implosion en route to the wreckage of the Titanic in June has been recovered – including presumed human remains, the US Coast Guard said Tuesday.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/10/us/titan-submersible-titanic-coast-guard-recovery/index.html



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Gruesome! I'm surprised the scavengers hadn't cleaned up. When a whale dies, the meat is stripped from the bones by a plethora of critters. When the bones are left, there are worms that somehow show up to "eat" the bones.

Noah930 10-10-2023 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12106885)
Gruesome! I'm surprised the scavengers hadn't cleaned up. When a whale dies, the meat is stripped from the bones by a plethora of critters. When the bones are left, there are worms that somehow show up to "eat" the bones.

Well, in all fairness, it takes years for a whale fall to get to that point where worms are eating the bones.


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