Have you played with AI images?

[steveo12345]

Originally Posted by juanbenae

so, AI is killing photoshop now too?

Adobe is doing what is best for business and embracing it. The latest version of Photoshop includes tools to utilize AI. The loosers in all this are the artists whose images are being used with no regard for copyright laws.

[GH85Carrera]

I asked it for a 5 car garage with only air cooled 911s of different colors.

I guess the garages or have space for 5 cars, but I would not say those are 5 car garages. And it really likes long hood 911s.

[rwest]

How do “we” feel about having any AI image, sounds, video etc be required to have something to identify it as being made up? Watermark or message etc to let everyone know it is not actually real, especially as it gets better and better.

[Paul T]

Originally Posted by rwest

How do “we” feel about having any AI image, sounds, video etc be required to have something to identify it as being made up? Watermark or message etc to let everyone know it is not actually real, especially as it gets better and better.

I think that’s a necessity and should be law. I mean, when you see these medical ads on tv that show an pill going into a cartoon stick figure’s stomach they put “dramatization” at the bottom of the screen, for something that is beyond obvious! AI has real world implications.

[jyl]

I am convinced that in the next few years we will need laws with serious teeth against deepfakes, voice fakes, and other AI generated fake media pretending to be real. People are just not able to defend themselves against the coming level of real-looking fakery and lies, and the incentives and rewards to fake and lie are huge, for businesses legit and ill-legit, politician scrupulous and not, and foreign powers trying to use America’s relatively uncontrolled media against us. By teeth I mean making the media networks on which the fake media is published financially responsible, because they benefit as much as anyone from it, and they have the technical chops to identify it in realtime.

[911 Rod]

AI images will rewrite history as we know it.
Fake news kinda thing.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by jyl

I am convinced that in the next few years we will need laws with serious teeth against deepfakes, voice fakes, and other AI generated fake media pretending to be real.

+1

I was in OS10 looking for AI image capability last night and found the ability to have the computer write prose. I asked for a short story "How did Porsche come to the US?" The story was very well written. Good structure and content.

What school kid is not using or considering this already to cheat?

If one had the computer write a long story, consider what you could learn in short order by having the computer compile everything for you.

[GH85Carrera]

We will need legislation to keep up with the new technology. We all accept "movie magic" and expect it.

We don't expect or want it to show up in the news or presented as real.

[gacook]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

+1

I was in OS10 looking for AI image capability last night and found the ability to have the computer write prose. I asked for a short story "How did Porsche come to the US?" The story was very well written. Good structure and content.

What school kid is not using or considering this already to cheat?

If I had the computer write a long story, consider what you could learn in short order by having the computer compile everything for you.

There are AI checkers already. Teachers in my kid's school use plagiarism and AI checkers to verify material was actually written by the student.

Unfortunately, my kid's English teacher also uses an AI grader--which does her job for her. I dislike that.

[tdw28210]

This sorta seems like it turned out OK; despite the missing chunk of 911 and the floating hand bits in the sand. It's funny and somewhat random how these AI generators respond to inputs.

[Steve Carlton]

Fake tats should be made illegal right away. Too realistic.

Lose the hand and windows, add some toe, and you're almost there.

[1990C4S]

It looks like you can't use it to modify an image?

[OK-944]

Ha! I’d be very curious to see what AI would come up with if it were asked, for example, to create an image of surf crashing onto a rocky shore, using a three second time exposure. Not simply a composite taken from existing images, mind you - but freshly/completely generated just from the above information.

Oh…and make it in black and white - monochrome should be easier for AI to deal with…right? Meanwhile…I’ll wait here at my dinner table with my hat on my plate. Anyone?

[1990C4S]

[tdw28210]

Just typing words and clicking options over here.

[Steve Carlton]

Type in “Pelican Parts Ban Island.”

[Steve Carlton]

I see a fresh arrival (the google way).

[OK-944]

1990C4S - I’m seeing all kinds of weirdness in that image. That surf in the background right would have been captured at either 1/125th or 1/60th sec, the burst of spray from the closer rock at mid-right would have been done at 1/15th or so, the spray on the left (upper one third) would need to have been taken at around 1/250th, while the foreground dynamics represent exposures of between 1/15th and perhaps 1/2 sec. Wave propagation in the foreground is also a bit wonky.

And while a single image including wave dynamics indicating different time signatures can be possible if one carefully mixes exposure times on that single frame, the example here would be nearly impossible with conventional film due to the buildup of highlights repeating (and adding to) themselves due to the close proximity of rocks in the foreground. Digitally? Yeah…anything is possible. Visually feasible in nature? Nope!

tdw28210 - I’m seeing speeds from about 1/30th on that middle wave, weird artifacts on the closer wave, and about 1/2 to 3 full seconds in the foreground…plus some very unconvincing propagation around the isolated rock in the right foreground.

Steve: That pelican? Yeah, feasible (but don’t they always land on water?)

My work involves creating photographs with large format film cameras (which I design and build), then processing and printing these by hand in my darkroom. Print sizes up to 40x60" - again, all by hand - nothing digital and/or AI…ever. Many of my images involve moving water.

Here’s an image, of surf crashing over rocks, with an appx. two second exposure, which I created on a 4x5 inch sheet of film…which I then printed in my darkroom. This image works great in many sizes…but especially as a 30x40 inch print:

[jyl]

Originally Posted by OK-944

My work involves creating photographs with large format film cameras (which I design and build), then processing and printing these by hand in my darkroom. Print sizes up to 40x60" - again, all by hand - nothing digital and/or AI…ever. Many of my images involve moving water.

Here’s an image, of surf crashing over rocks, with an appx. two second exposure, which I created on a 4x5 inch sheet of film…which I then printed in my darkroom. This image works great in many sizes…but especially as a 30x40 inch print:

Super interesting! Have you been able to send your cameras up on a drone? Seems that would be a hoot - a drone-mounted large format camera.

[Skip Newsom]

AI generated via Co-Pilot

Did pretty well on some specific instructions:







Apparently windshields are only imagined


AI gone wild- floating monkey tails and ???


And crappy on others: "Create a photo of a Monkey riding a red and white 1985 Honda VF750F Interceptor on a sunny and twisty mountain road"
Come on man! not a single Interceptor in the 4 tries, all inline 4's.
OK, OK, inline 4's are cool too


A movie poster/plot?


Finally! A believable generation... still not an Interceptor- Bastages