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				Within a few years Microsoft won’t allow you to store anything on your pc
			 
			
			So says my network guy.  I was arguing over this latest MS scheme to get all my files on their cloud system and he says it’s unavoidable.   
		
	
		
	
			
				I am well and truly disgusted. Congress should be involved in this and protecting the American people. 
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			I can’t imagine that. I work with files that are 11 Gigabytes and bigger regularly. I have 12 Terabytes of storage. No way in hell can that be done online.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			All your base belong to us. MS new slogan?  
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Elon with“Let that sink in”. Along with “GFY” are rather apropos…  | 
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			I wonder if Linux will work with my EHR system
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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This... I've been using Linux Mint (at home) for about 5 years. Highly recommended!
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Maybe before we all go and call our Congressperson, we should get some verification from someone other than "my network guy". 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			Then maybe we shouldn't be calling on the government to regulate the decisions of private business, but that's for a different forum... 
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			Apple has the same dream. They seem to be going about it at a slightly slower pace.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			I don't mind.  When it comes to updating I'm always a couple of years behind.  So all the bugs (and arguing ) will be over by then.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			No way.  Laptops have to work offline.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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I can understand your skepticism.  My guy  was pretty big already (well into 7 figures revenues) then was bought out by a regional group a year or two ago and administers networks for big companies like price Waterhouse, etc.  This isn’t the neighbors nephew who ‘took computers at the community college’.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		 You’d think so. In the accounting industry the main bookkeeping software is quickbooks. They are phasing out desktop and will be moving completely to their online product. Anyone here use Adobe Lightroom? This is no joke guys. The time is coming when we will have to ask permission to get to any of our own data. This is a fundamental change that benefits only large cos like MS, Intuit, etc. 
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			They want all your data in the cloud to let AI roam through it. Lovely  
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			![]() But so convenient when time comes to give you a social credit score and hand that over to the government for controlling your digital currency… 
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			It's bigger than just bot learning from anonymous data across the internet. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			Every program (App they call it) will be sniffing through your proprietary records and data. Already are actually.. Do you make a lot of good stock trades? Suing a large company? A pastor buying make up and ladies grundys? Running for office somewhere? Inquiring minds want to know. https://www.reuters.com/legal/google-settles-5-billion-consumer-privacy-lawsuit-2023-12-28/ They said his turned Google into an "unaccountable trove of information" by letting the company learn about their friends, hobbies, favorite foods, shopping habits, and "potentially embarrassing things" they seek out online. The big companies will be able to immunize themselves. The little people not so much. The laws are MIA. https://www.reuters.com/legal/transactional/ny-times-sues-openai-microsoft-infringing-copyrighted-work-2023-12-27/ NEW YORK, Dec 27 (Reuters) - The New York Times (NYT.N) sued OpenAI and Microsoft (MSFT.O) on Wednesday, accusing them of using millions of the newspaper's articles without permission to help train chat bots to provide information to readers. 
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			I really like the ability to store all my photos on the cloud.   No charge for the service and they are instantly accessible. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
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			Everything is going SaaS [Software as a Service] in the cloud anymore. So lightroom, QuickBooks, SAP, M365........yeah, that stuff lives out there. I don't see how any vendor can REQUIRE home users to put everything in the cloud. There is too much risk for them. If I had my CC info in a text file, some health files, and tax reports saved locally with SSNs etc, and their systems got compromised, that is a lot of HIPPA and PII data they are on the hook for. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			Back in the day I had my Keepass file synced with DropBox. I quickly realized he err of my ways and knocked that crap off. Keep everything synced on my local NAS. 
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 Here's why it matters to me- During the discussion over my desire to get off this one drive cloud **** i said 'just put my network back such that all my word and excel files are stored on my local server and not via this one drive cloud thing. Do you want to know what i was told? By my 'friend' i've known for 20 years who owns his building for about $300k less than other offers the bank received because i hooked him into a deal with some other distressed properties...do you want to know what this guy says to me? he says 'i'm not willing to do that'. Think about that for a bit. This is big business operating ethos now guys. At one point he says 'i'm still trying to decide what i want to do here'. WTF? You're trying to decide what YOU want to do with MY data? You can write this off as some oddball craziness that won't happen elsewhere but what i'm telling you is this guy is at the top of a company that grosses 10's of millionis of $$ annually managing networks and this statement is a window into the thought process of the industry. 
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