Maybe it bothers me more than it should....

[masraum]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

I've always had an issue with "gonna" and "wanna".

You're gonna wanna learn to deal with that. Y'know what I mean?

[Dixie]

What I hate is fundie baby voice. Most men turn to jello hearing it; however, I find it creepy and highly demeaning.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Capt. Carrera

What I hate is fundie baby talk. Most men turn to jello hearing it; however, I find it creepy and highly demeaning.

"fundie baby talk"??

[Dixie]

Originally Posted by masraum

You're gonna wanna learn to deal with that. Y'know what I mean?

[flatbutt]

Originally Posted by masraum

"fundie baby talk"??

This is just weird

https://www.facebook.com/PiperforMissouri/videos/fundie-baby-voice/7072527049481149/

[masraum]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

This is just weird

https://www.facebook.com/PiperforMissouri/videos/fundie-baby-voice/7072527049481149/

I guess I've heard that voice before (never in person, only on TV/movies). I'd definitely never heard it named or referenced.
This is what I think of it.


I have met men and women that I felt put on affectations to portray themselves in a way that I assume they either thought was cool or more attractive in some way. It always seems weird to me, and, to me at least, usually does not have the desired effect, although I'm sure that there are some folks that find the fundie baby voice attractive or it wouldn't be a thing. And I have always thought that for folks that think something like that is attractive, I guess they are well matched with folks that are willing to put on the performance.

[Dixie]

Originally Posted by masraum

"fundie baby talk"??

Women who intentionally raise the pitch and breathiness of their speech in order to convey innocence and submission to male authority. It's typically associated with women in evangelical churches; ergo, fundamentalist baby voice.

(Not to be confused with my Southern drawl that unintentionally goes into overdrive upon meeting a guy, haha)

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Capt. Carrera

Women who intentionally raise the pitch and breathiness of their speech in order to convey innocence and submission to male authority. It's typically associated with women in evangelical churches; ergo, fundamentalist baby voice.

It's weird and interesting. It seems like it's very closely related to the dumb blonde voice, like Marilyn M, Chrissy from 3s company, etc...

[911 Rod]

Guy next door uses a baby voice talking to his kid that I can hear through the hedges. It was annoying when the kid was a baby, but now 5 years later it's really annoying and demeaning to the kid.
Or maybe it's all the metal he has pierced in his tongue.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by 911 Rod

Guy next door uses a baby voice talking to his kid that I can hear through the hedges. It was annoying when the kid was a baby, but now 5 years later it's really annoying and demeaning to the kid.
Or maybe it's all the metal he has pierced in his tongue.

I've seen/read at least half a dozen different articles that indicate that adults using baby-talk to talk to babies is not only OK, but good/beneficial. But at some point, I assume when kids begin to REALLY talk, you'd want to switch to normal speech.

[911 Rod]

Originally Posted by masraum

I've seen/read at least half a dozen different articles that indicate that adults using baby-talk to talk to babies is not only OK, but good/beneficial. But at some point, I assume when kids begin to REALLY talk, you'd want to switch to normal speech.

I'm not sure if they still breastfeed the kid.

[oldE]

Originally Posted by masraum

I've seen/read at least half a dozen different articles that indicate that adults using baby-talk to talk to babies is not only OK, but good/beneficial. But at some point, I assume when kids begin to REALLY talk, you'd want to switch to normal speech.

I will refrain from saying what I really think of the opinions stated in half a dozen articles and just pose this question:
What is the point of indoctrinating a child in a particular speech pattern only to switch in a few years?
Start them off with language spoken as you wish to hear them speak. Then if you want to challenge them, add another language, French or Spanish or Mandarin. Don't waste their time when they have such ability to learn.

On a side note, when I worked in the interpretive center, I had some visitors state their opinion that I must not be from Nova Scotia, as they were able to understand me. I would assure them I was indeed a native Nova Scotian, but I minored in English in university, then worked in sales and management for 25 years before starting this position. My purpose here was to be able to communicate with our visitors and I appreciated my efforts were successful.

And Dixie, I'm with you. That put on voice might as well be fingernails on a chalkboard to me.

Best
Les

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by masraum

It's weird and interesting. It seems like it's very closely related to the dumb blonde voice, like Marilyn M, Chrissy from 3s company, etc...

Long ago when I was still living at home with my parents I had a girlfriend that had a voice that could cause stirring in a mans pants if she was reading a phone book. This was in the era of just one phone line and the only private place to talk was my parents bedroom. Anyway she called a few times and my dad did not use her name, just "ol' sexy voice called" was his message. My brother wanted to listen to her after that and kept listening in on the kitchen phone. It was NOT a high pitched voice, but very sultry.




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[masraum]

Originally Posted by oldE

I will refrain from saying what I really think of the opinions stated in half a dozen articles and just pose this question:
What is the point of indoctrinating a child in a particular speech pattern only to switch in a few years?
Start them off with language spoken as you wish to hear them speak. Then if you want to challenge them, add another language, French or Spanish or Mandarin. Don't waste their time when they have such ability to learn.

I think the target of those articles is actual babies, <1 or maybe 2yo, so when they are not yet communicating other than making noises. And the theory is that high pitched speech is more engaging/attractive to their brains. I assume that as they get older, and start speaking (actual words) that you would/should transition into natural speech.

I can see how babies brains may be predisposed to be drawn to sounds with some qualities more or differently than other sounds. I think a baby may be happier to hear some sounds than a low dogs growl, for instance. I think at that age, their brains are potentially VERY different than an older child or adult's brain.

On a side note, when I worked in the interpretive center, I had some visitors state their opinion that I must not be from Nova Scotia, as they were able to understand me. I would assure them I was indeed a native Nova Scotian, but I minored in English in university, then worked in sales and management for 25 years before starting this position. My purpose here was to be able to communicate with our visitors and I appreciated my efforts were successful.

I worked with a guy that's from a fairly rural area of Texas, but has virtually no Texas accent. I knew a girl that was from Texas and moved to England for several years. She came back from Britain and had a fairly strong British accent. I've also met folks that moved to the US from various countries in Asia that spoke English with very little accent after only a handful of years (<5yrs), and have known folks that have have lived in the US for 40 years with foreign accents so thick that I had to concentrate to understand them.

I think a lot of that is down to specific traits that some folks have at different levels from other folks. In my mind it's a strong ability to hear and also to mimic vs a low ability to mimic those around you.

I've also known folks that have a very hard time understanding people speaking English with a foreign accent. I think that comes down to some wiring in their brain rather than intelligence, exposure to foreign languages, etc....

[masraum]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

Long ago when I was still living at home with my parents I had a girlfriend that had a voice that could cause stirring in a mans pants if she was reading a phone book. This was in the era of just one phone line and the only private place to talk was my parents bedroom. Anyway she called a few times and my dad did not use her name, just "ol' sexy voice called" was his message. My brother wanted to listen to her after that and kept listening in on the kitchen phone. It was NOT a high pitched voice, but very sultry.
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I don't normally think about a if a woman's voice is sexy or not. Most are just a voice, maybe more soothing or melodic or deeper or raspier, but it's never been a factor in attraction. But many years ago, I was providing high end phone support for Cisco Systems. I had a customer call in, I think she was of Korean descent based on her name, but was calling from NY city and had no accent (foreign or NY) to speak of. Her voice was amazing, very distracting. Under certain circumstances, if she called, I wouldn't answer because I knew I would be useless on the phone.

"blah, blah, blah, what do you think?"
huh, what? I'm sorry, I was distracted.

[herr_oberst]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

my dad did not use her name, just "ol' sexy voice called" was his message.
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I wonder if her dad nicknamed you "ol' bulgy pants" when you called?

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by herr_oberst

I wonder if her dad nicknamed you "ol' bulgy pants" when you called?

Hey, at that age most all teenage males are that way towards any female that will talk to them. It was the early 70s. and mini skirts were the fashion style for most ladies. She was just another level, and I will not divulge more than that.

[A930Rocket]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

I've always had an issue with "gonna" and "wanna".

I use voice to text a lot and going is always translated to gonna. 🤬

I notice when reading an interview or talk with somebody, going is translated as gonna.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by 911 Rod

Guy next door uses a baby voice talking to his kid that I can hear through the hedges. It was annoying when the kid was a baby, but now 5 years later it's really annoying and demeaning to the kid.
Or maybe it's all the metal he has pierced in his tongue.

I didn't even realize I did it, but a few years back my uncle asked me why I was "baby talking" to my dawg ....

I had NO answer for him

I can also sound like a meanie weenie with my deep voice too ... it just depends

[flatbutt]

I have a vague memory of Dizzy Dean's grammar murder coming over the radio.

"An English teacher once wrote to him, complaining that he shouldn't use the word "ain't" on the air, as it was a bad example to children. On the air, Dean said, "A lot of folks who ain't sayin' 'ain't,' ain't eatin'. So, Teach, you learn 'em English, and I'll learn 'em baseball."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dizzy_Dean