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I was just wondering why use the separate additional descriptor opposing if not to disambiguate.

The way I parse language I'm wondering why take the extra time to expressly mention opposed.
If not to convey the pistons moving in opposition vs together, what then?

Any production horizontal engine that I am aware of just saying it is flat or horizontal is enough descriptor to convey the engine layout as having the cylinders opposite in common parlance.

And speaking of inline 6's, maybe some one made a flat inline engine back in the day.
I know Indy cars of the past really leaned the engine over for balance and CG. Not having the drive shaft run down the center of the car had the additional benefit of lower fuel tank and driver placement.
A short period of Indy had FWD dominated machines as it lowered the CG by not running a drive shaft down the chassis at all.

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I think it will be over 30 million and you get to meet Jerry.
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I was just wondering why use the separate additional descriptor opposing if not to disambiguate.

The way I parse language I'm wondering why take the extra time to expressly mention opposed.
If not to convey the pistons moving in opposition vs together, what then?

Any production horizontal engine that I am aware of just saying it is flat or horizontal is enough descriptor to convey the engine layout as having the cylinders opposite in common parlance.

And speaking of inline 6's, maybe some one made a flat inline engine back in the day.
I know Indy cars of the past really leaned the engine over for balance and CG. Not having the drive shaft run down the center of the car had the additional benefit of lower fuel tank and driver placement.
A short period of Indy had FWD dominated machines as it lowered the CG by not running a drive shaft down the chassis at all.
I don't know where the nomenclature came from. There is also the opposed piston engine, a very different concept.

By your definition, an inline 6 would be a flat engine, whether inclined vertically as most are, or canted over to some degree. I don't recall seeing one that was horizontal, although who knows?

Personally, I'm going to continue using the terms as I've understood them all these years and flat engines will only be those with two cylinder banks 180 degrees apart and lying in a horizontal plane.
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and you get to meet Jerry.
Oh, see, that makes it all worth it.

If I had the cash and the desire to own a 917 (I don't) I wouldn't buy this one. There would be three on my list. The very original 917K previously owned by Chuck Stoddard, one with a significant race history, or one of the longtails driven by Vic.

This one will likely be more expensive than those and I couldn't give even half a **** if either McQueen or Seinfeld one owned it.
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I wonder the amount the auctioneer will open the bids at.
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When is the auction?
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When is the auction?
Mecum’s Kissimmee auction on January 18
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This one will likely be more expensive than those and I couldn't give even half a **** if either McQueen or Seinfeld one owned it.
That's why I don't think it will go for 30. It's more impressive that Atwood owned it.
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It doesn't matter to this particular buyer, who thinks it's more valuable due to celebrity or driver ownership, only that any number of future buyers will. Collecting 101.
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If there are 2 or more determined bidders the selling price will rise.
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There are 3 30 second commercials for Mecum in this, but all car related.

It answers a lot of the questions I had about the car.
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Wonder what the buyer would give me for my 1/1 guitar I had commissioned after this car.... lol









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Guys! Don't bid on this car! I just found out that it's been in a crash!

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Not a problem, it’s not on the CarFax report.
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Going 'on the block' soon....I think.
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Going 'on the block' soon....I think.
It's lot S- 237. S-136 just crossed. Probably around 4:30 ET
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It's lot S- 237. S-136 just crossed. Probably around 4:30 ET
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Thanks...I had just got home and turned it to that channel. A lot of other great cars going also.

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One of Mecums guys was just now asked what it is like while they were revving the engine on the stage.
He said "It's exciting, especially watching that 'spinner' on the engine turning.
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This batch of big boy cars has slowed it down some. Probably more like 5:30 ET now.
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