6:57:685

[pwd72s]

But they had to hire a German driver to do it. 6th on the sub 7 minutes list..

(edit) The list here: https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/nordschleife-full

[masraum]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

But they had to hire a German driver to do it. 6th on the sub 7 minutes list..

Very nice! I love a good 'Ring video.

[rfuerst911sc]

Not your typical Mustang cars and coffee outing 😅

[GH85Carrera]

What is the sale price of that Mustang?

I feel certain it is less than a Porsche GT3RS that back in 2022 did it in 6:44.848

It will be interesting to see the what the new 2025 GT3RS time will be.

Sub 7 minutes is very fast for a street car. I wonder if and when Chevrolet Corvette monster 1,000+ HP car does it in. Mustang threw down the gauntlet for the Vette to try to beat.

Not that any of that matters to a real world street driven daily driver.

It seems funny that Ferrari's fastest time is 7:00:03 back in 2019.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

What is the sale price of that Mustang?

I feel certain it is less than a Porsche GT3RS that back in 2022 did it in 6:44.848

It will be interesting to see the what the new 2025 GT3RS time will be.

Sub 7 minutes is very fast for a street car. I wonder if and when Chevrolet Corvette monster 1,000+ HP car does it in. Mustang threw down the gauntlet for the Vette to try to beat.

Not that any of that matters to a real world street driven daily driver.

It seems funny that Ferrari's fastest time is 7:00:03 back in 2019.

The application window for buying a Mustang GTD has long closed, with buyers paying an estimated starting price of $325,000

I just priced a GT3RS on porsche.com at $295k. From what I've heard, dealers are charging a huge premium over the MSRP to actually get one. I think I remember hearing that it's something like 100k or 150k.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by masraum

The application window for buying a Mustang GTD has long closed, with buyers paying an estimated starting price of $325,000

I just priced a GT3RS on porsche.com at $295k. From what I've heard, dealers are charging a huge premium over the MSRP to actually get one. I think I remember hearing that it's something like 100k or 150k.

Our local dealership had a new GT3RS for $303,000. I would take a GT3RS any day over the Mustang. I can't imagine spending 300K+ for any car.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

Our local dealership had a new GT3RS for $303,000. I would take a GT3RS any day over the Mustang. I can't imagine spending 300K+ for any car.

Many years ago, I changed jobs. I was working contract making $60/hr, IIRC, and working ~60hrs/wk. I think I used to get paychecks that were $5k net for 2wks work. I thought that was pretty cool.

A guy told me a story. The company had filed chapter 11 and then hired in all new C-level execs contract to get the company back up to snuff. One guy had gone up to work on one of the C-guys' computer. When he walked in, the guy had a check stub on his monitor or something. The C-guy was making $620/hr, and was working plenty of OT which meant that he could potentially have a 2 week paycheck that was $40-50k. I heard that the guy ended up working 2400 hours for the year. At $620/hr, that's ~$1.5 million. If I was making that much money, I could conceivably spend $300k on a car.

It's all about perspective. If you were Gates, Musk, Jobs, Bezos, then spending what you and I would consider obscene amounts of money for a car, boat, plane, whatever has a very different meaning.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

Our local dealership had a new GT3RS for $303,000. I would take a GT3RS any day over the Mustang. I can't imagine spending 300K+ for any car.

I wonder if that's the price that you'd pay. I know that when S2000s, NSX, and maybe even miatas came out the window sticker said one thing, but the buyers had to pay quite a bit more to actually drive out in one. I think I remember hearing that the window sticker on the early S2000 was ~$30k, but to actually get one you had to pay closer to $45k. And I believe the NSX was similar (150%) but the window sticker was $60k and to actually buy one was $90k.

[Bill Douglas]

Probably the Mustang would be a good investment in the hands of guys like us. Your average Mustang owner will likely crash it in the first week, and very few left in going order in ten years time.

[A930Rocket]

Originally Posted by masraum

I wonder if that's the price that you'd pay. I know that when S2000s, NSX, and maybe even miatas came out the window sticker said one thing, but the buyers had to pay quite a bit more to actually drive out in one. I think I remember hearing that the window sticker on the early S2000 was ~$30k, but to actually get one you had to pay closer to $45k. And I believe the NSX was similar (150%) but the window sticker was $60k and to actually buy one was $90k.

Unless you’re paying cash, how does that work if you are financing the overpriced vehicle? Do you pay the difference somehow or do they roll it into the loan? Seems like a lender would not lend money over the price of the car.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Wasn’t the original NSX ultimately a sales flop? Particularly near the end of its life?

Obviously the GTD can fly but the new Mustang hasn’t yet grown on me. I think the styling is too blocky and somewhat disjointed. I really liked the previous generation and would LOVE to have a GT350 in my garage.

[Dixie]

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

Probably the Mustang would be a good investment in the hands of guys like us. Your average Mustang owner will likely crash it in the first week, and very few left in going order in ten years time.

https://news.dupontregistry.com/porsche/a-brand-new-992-porsche-911-gt3-rs-crashes-into-a-river-in-snoqualmie-washington/

[onewhippedpuppy]

I don’t care who makes it, any modern supercar can kill you really fast. My neighbor’s 720S is painfully fast, and he’s not even pushing it.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

Wasn’t the original NSX ultimately a sales flop? Particularly near the end of its life?

A quick WIKI peek says you are being too nice. Started falling off (close to half) in 1993. This link has North American sales in a table.

Loved those cars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_NSX

NSX means New Sportscar eXperimental so it is similar in naming convention to my "new" 1999 RAV4 which means Recreational Activity Vehicle. I think the 4 means how many tires. PM me and I'll send you pics.

[onewhippedpuppy]

There’s a really great Hagerty video on YouTube with Jason Camisa talking about the history and development of the NSX, and how it wasn’t fully appreciated in its day. An NSX would be near the top of my dream car list.