Dec 14, GT3 RS goes over the side on Angels Crest, anyone we know?

[Tobra]

He got a ride in a helo, hopefully not hurt too badly

[greglepore]

I saw that video yesterday. Man, it seems like an awful lot of GT3RS's get destroyed...
The comments to the vid were nasty. Some pointed out the guy was wearing race gloves etc.
Seriously hurt but alive in hospital.

[3rd_gear_Ted]

Every PCA chapter has their own horror stories about "canyon carvers" in their membership.

Take it to the track where a GT3 RS belongs or buy a GTS.

Tangent:
BMW has a track @ Thermal CA. When is Porsche going to do near the same, PECLA is not it.

[911boost]

I wonder if all the nannies gave him an overinflated sense of his skill, or what happened.

Glad he is alive.

Its ok, from the 991.1 on they made a ton of RS's, not like a rare care was destroyed.

[edgemar]

Look at the in camera footage of a GT3RS on the Nuremberg Ring the performance is crazy!

[pmax]

[pwd72s]

^ Probably the best R&T "PS" of them all...

Also, there's a problem with buying the fastest car...for some reason, some of the guys who do so seem to feel they have to prove it.

[speeder]

This happens so often up there that it’s hardly even news.

[Chocaholic]

Have to wonder if the yellow Porsche parked off the shoulder wasn't part of the fun.

[Tobra]

They were together, no doubt. If you did not see him go off, you would not have spotted that car from the road.

[A930Rocket]

Some guys have more money than talent…

[masraum]

Hopefully, it's nothing life changing (other than to his wallet).

Lots of folks get high capability cars and then drive them like they are on the track when they are not. Driving to the limit of something with limits like a GT3 RS on a narrow road where the safety barrier is a forest and steep drop offs is crazy. This is an ideal place to drive a slow car fast, and a horrible place to drive a fast car fast.

I saw a video the other day of a bunch of folks that are idiots.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

^ Probably the best R&T "PS" of them all...

Also, there's a problem with buying the fastest car...for some reason, some of the guys who do so seem to feel they have to prove it.

I’ve had quite a few cars that I felt like could kill me. This one could murder me and my family in their sleep.

[ted]

If you have gone fast on track and on the street you know on street you can't get near your limits on the track.
At the track, you have safer run offs, fire crew, ambulance, surrounded by other track drivers.
On the street, run offs are cliffs with trees, families in cars with cell phones, a helo for an ambulance just a massive amount of liability and exposure.

Don't assume because you are smart and successful enough to be able to afford a GT3RS lease payment that you also have the judgement, maturity and car control experience to actually drive it fast.

[javadog]

Almost nobody that buys these cars has the talent to drive them fast. Most can't get past 50% of the car's ultimate capability. It's getting ridiculous.

[herr_oberst]

Originally Posted by ted

If you have gone fast on track and on the street you know on street you can't get near your limits on the track.
At the track, you have safer run offs, fire crew, ambulance, surrounded by other track drivers.
On the street, run offs are cliffs with trees, families in cars with cell phones, a helo for an ambulance just a massive amount of liability and exposure.

Don't assume because you are smart and successful enough to be able to afford a GT3RS lease payment that you also have the judgement, maturity and car control experience to actually drive it fast.

"This car'll do 180mph!
I just bought one!
I'm rich! I must be capable of driving a car 180mph! Noice!"

(Plus, the GT3RS and other street supercars absolutely do not have the safety equipment and crash structure for the high speeds that they generate. It's criminal when you think about it. I hate that I feel that way because I love seeing fast cars. I just don't love these high speed accidents on public roads.)

[rfuerst911sc]

Time and time again we see big wallets running out of driving talent . Take too much risk it will end badly .

[javadog]

Originally Posted by herr_oberst

(Plus, the GT3RS and other street supercars absolutely do not have the safety equipment and crash structure for the high speeds that they generate.

That's a very accurate and underappreciated perspective.

[jhynesrockmtn]

I don't know why you would buy something like this and not get the required training to handle it. Maybe these guys do and they still screw up, but I'm guessing not. I have been through the PCA instructor program, but personally have never driven anything close to this on the track. My main race car was a 60hp FV and my 911 DE car with a pretty modified 3.2 might put out 250hp. These modern supercars are way over my head, and I've got hundreds of hours of track time.

[GH85Carrera]

For many years, the Corvette was one of the the most expensive cars to insure. Guys would go out and buy one, and figure they could drive it like the folks in the movies or TV shows.

There is an entire web site full of photos of crashed supercars. It is not a new phenomenon.

Back in November I was in Arkansas on the fantastic back roads in my analog 85 911 on a day with rain and wet roads. Most of the others in the group had modern cars with all the bells and whistles of ABS, traction control, stability control and so on, and I was very much concentrating to not go above 60% of of what I figured the limit was as a slight miscalculation on wet roads would could be bad stuff. I still had no real problem keeping up with the group but I was super alert.

Jay Leno's line is something like all men think they are great lovers, and great drivers, and they are very wrong on both counts.