I may be replacing my V8 truck with something newer and more power. What do you have

[cantdrv55]

Thanks all. The rig I tow is only 7300 GVWR and the Nissan should be able to tow up to 9300.

[911boost]

Are you planning on getting anything heavier?

I agree with Denis, I have so many friends that tow heavy and I have 140k of trouble free miles with my 6.7 F350.

[cantdrv55]

Originally Posted by 911boost

Are you planning on getting anything heavier?

I agree with Denis, I have so many friends that tow heavy and I have 140k of trouble free miles with my 6.7 F350.

I might go to a lighter and smaller RV trailer if I can’t find a suitable replacement truck in my budget.

[unclebilly]

The new tundras tow really well, especially with the hybrid.

Toyota quality is not what it once was.

I have a 5th wheel camper we pull as well and a stock trailer and a couple bumper pulls.

Fuel economy when towing is only a bit better than the previous generation.

[onewhippedpuppy]

I learned a similar lesson the hard way when I was still towing my boat several years ago. I had a 2013 F150 Ecoboost, factory tow rated to 12,500, towing a 9,000-ish lb 29’ boat and usually loaded down with gear. I modified it with every bolt on for towing, it had enough power to tow triple the load. But it didn’t have the chassis or wheelbase for it. When your load is bigger, longer, and heavier than your tow truck you are always going to feel the tail trying to wag the dog. I ended up “upgrading” to a 2008 F250 diesel and it was an absolute revelation. The diesel torque was great but even more so the chassis’ ability to handle the load. Simply put it didn’t feel sketchy anymore. So depending on your price range I would definitely look to a 3/4 ton diesel or gas, single rear wheel because I don’t think you need a dually for that load. Diesels are awesome but you’ll pay more to buy and maintain them, and most modern gas engines in a 3/4 ton will have more than enough power. My FIL is a contractor who routinely pulls a 30’ gooseneck 5th wheel loaded down with equipment, he had one diesel and then switched to a gas Ram 2500 and now a gas F350.

[cabmandone]

^^^ I heard from a good friend who owns a 7.3 gasser and a 6.7 diesel that the 10 speed is amazing in both trucks and he actually prefers the gasser vs the diesel which was a bit of a shocker to me. My biggest problem with the gasser is where it makes its power and torque. I feel like the thing is gonna toss a rod cranking the R's it does.

Now I'm out looking for a newer F250 with the 7.3. I just can't bring myself to pay 50K for a used truck!

[berettafan]

The newer Ford 7.3 (godzilla) motor doesn't need high rpm to tow fairly heavy loads. Granted it was flat land but pulling about a 10k camper with mine it settled just above 2k rpm. Very relaxed feeling. My understanding is the 6.2 gas prior will run higher rpm to get it done.

[onewhippedpuppy]

FIL said he doesn’t miss the diesel, way more hassles to live with than the gas.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by berettafan

The newer Ford 7.3 (godzilla) motor doesn't need high rpm to tow fairly heavy loads. Granted it was flat land but pulling about a 10k camper with mine it settled just above 2k rpm. Very relaxed feeling. My understanding is the 6.2 gas prior will run higher rpm to get it done.

Depending on what I'm towing, I lock out 6. I think that puts me somewhere in the 2500rpm range at highway speed. It's getting up to that speed and the shift strategy that has my nerves a bit frazzled. Those high rpm, drawn out shifts, just don't feel right to me. I've thought about buying a 5star tune just to improve shifting. My friend said the 7.3 is very capable. I don't recall if he ever owned a 6.2 for comparison. The power and torque specs are relatively close IIRC

[rfuerst911sc]

Towing is not just about the go , you also have to woah 😆 . A 3/4 or 1 ton has a heavier frame/axles and brakes . I agree with others it sounds like a 3/4 ton is a good fit for the OP . Gas or diesel is a personal preference .

Keep in mind emergency situations . You are tooling down the highway with 15,000 lbs of truck and trailer . You blow a tire , you have to control the rig until stopped . Or someone unexpectedly cuts you off you have to stop the rig .

Trucks are stupid expensive that's part of the reason I have held onto mine . 2001 with 190k she just keeps running well . I wish you well on your search for a replacement tow vehicle .

[greglepore]

I have a 6.0 Ford 350 non dually and tow a living quarters horse trailer with it. No issues after doing the head gasket.
But diesels are much more expensive to maintain than gas trucks.
If I were to buy new it'd likely be the 7.3 Ford. The only issue is that they rev highish to make power, whereas diesels make it with torque.
If used, diesels ALL have their "issue". I'd stay away from 6.4 Fords, I know folks will say "mine is great" but if you talk to fleet operators they'll tell you what perusing Marketplace will confirm-they explode. Regularly. The good ones are good, the bad ones trash motors. The 6.0' s had head stud issues, its a 5k fix but fixable. The 6.4's need whole motors. Cummins? Great motor but the interior quality until very recently was junk. GM's tend to have fewer "big" problems but have their own quirks.

[Arizona_928]

Originally Posted by cabmandone

I pull with a 2012 F250 with a 6.2L gas engine. The stuff I tow typically weighs between 9-11,000 lbs. The truck handles what I tow well and gets around 7-8 mpg rolling 75mph. About the only thing I can't pass is a gas station. If I was considering upgrading I'd go to the 7.3 Godzilla gas engine. Primary reasons I don't go diesel are maintenance cost versus the miles I drive my truck yearly and cost of fuel.

My mother drove a 2011 f250 with a 6.2 gasser for 400k miles. Trans was a little lazy but with some weird electrical problems and the evaporator developing a leak is what finally sidelined the truck. Currently used as a pump hoist truck.

Hell of a truck tbh.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by cantdrv55

Thanks all. The rig I tow is only 7300 GVWR and the Nissan should be able to tow up to 9300.

2015 0r 2016 2500 GMC truck in 2018 in southern Newfoundland (the island - not sure if you need to differentiate) Port town where ferry lands from NS.


Duramax/Allison combination hauling a race 911 up to St John's. Surely under 10,000 lbs. 22 days I was in that rig and that's my knowledge base. Was never an issue. I even drove on some wimpy long stretches in NS.

I think a 3500 is overkill but that's all it is - just thinking and talking.

[Tim Hancock]

I have a 2011 Tundra Limited 5.7 gas that tows great. I have towed a 31.5' camper with electric brakes weighing about 9000 lbs 8 hrs to Oshkosh several times. It did just fine and never felt squirrely. I also used to tow my loaded race car trailer weighing around 7k every Saturday night for 4 years. I still use it to tow my 5000 lb 21' boat all summer long. Other than the awful fuel mileage it towed all this stuff great with plenty of power to spare going 70 plus on the highways and on hills.

Pic of 31.5' camper before I got the weight distribution hitch adjusted properly.




Race car trailer




21' boat

[craigster59]

My daily is a 2016 F150 3.5 Ecoboost. 12k tow capacity, easy to self maintain and tows my 27' travel trailer with ease.

I've mentioned in other posts, my neighbor is an engineer for Ford and they have been seeing more and more 300k without a rebuild 3.5 Ecoboost trucks lately.

That said, I'd love an F250 Super Duty but just can't justify it. I'll drive the 150 until it dies.

[jhynesrockmtn]

Originally Posted by cantdrv55

Thanks all. The rig I tow is only 7300 GVWR and the Nissan should be able to tow up to 9300.

Your tow capacity is only one factor in how a truck handles whatever trailer you tow.
I would guess most trucks run out of payload way before tow capacity. If you don't have a good weight distribution and sway setup, and you are at or near payload capacity, you are a ticking time bomb. My F150 has a 10,800 lbs tow rating and a payload capacity of roughly 1,600 lbs. I've towed my trailer short distances without the weight distribution and sway setup and it is squirrely. I have about 4,000 miles on it with the a 4 point equalizer setup and have towed in high winds, had a few panic stops, mountain passes, etc. It tows great. If my trailer were any bigger though, I'd be in an F250.

[Rtrorkt]

ive got an option. Have a 2016 Range Rover Sport diesel with 134k on the clock. DEF issues addressed, tows as well as any truck. Safe, quiet torque monster, 26mpg. Yours for $16.5k

[speeder]

Originally Posted by Rtrorkt

ive got an option. Have a 2016 Range Rover Sport diesel with 134k on the clock. DEF issues addressed, tows as well as any truck. Safe, quiet torque monster, 26mpg. Yours for $16.5k

Yeah, that doesn't tow "as well as any truck." Maybe a ski boat or a U-haul trailer, not a big trailer.

When it comes to towing large/heavy trailers, you want MORE capacity than needed, not less. There is an inverse correlation between the weight of a trailer and its safety in a panic stop, etc.

[908/930]

As others have said a 3/4 ton should work well. I have a 2011 Chevy 2500hd 4x4 crew cab 6.0l gas and occasionally pulling a 6000lb trailer no real effort with that weight. I would not say acceleration on the highway is great but it will get there. One complaint that I have is the trucks turning radius, like a bus, the 2wd likely turns sharper. The best milage I can get is about 17L/100 or 14MPG, that's expected just because of the truck weight. And the factory electric trailer brake set up is a common problem, many remove it and install aftermarket.

[ted]

What diesel service or maintenance is so much worse than any gas engine maintenance?
I've owned 2 diesel trucks for the last 25 years with nothing terrible to report.

Remember the cycle life of the diesel is going to be 3 or 4 times longer than an over worked gas engine.

The 2014 Ram 3500 diesel has the jake brake style engine braking.
That feature makes long steep down hill towing much more controlled.
You don't use the brake just lift the throttle and the loaded rig slows safely.
In fact the jake brake has 2 settings, a soft setting for hauling horses so the engine braking is gentle.
I rarely need to use the brakes with the diesel engine braking feature.

With the diesel towing 8,000 lbs with a big slide in camper still gets 11 or 12 mpg with plenty of power.

At any rate if you are towing with a marginal size truck you should consider a weight distribution hitch.
I had one on the F250 and the Ram3500, WDH really balances the load, it puts a lot of weight on your front axle and reduces rear axle sagging.
WDH should be on every heavy duty trailer hitch.

This WDH has a 30 inch hitch extension for the slide in camper, tows great.