Chinese EV, HiPhi Z

[HobieMarty]

https://youtu.be/zKLNrENnwlc?si=ClxOswfGDr0sPwxL

I had the keys to one of these vehicles at the Hyundai R&D center parking deck. They have lots of competitors' vehicles stored at the parking deck, and we were given keys to several vehicles. This EV from China was the last set of keys to be offered, and no one wanted the keys, so yep, I ended up with them. Funny thing when the group saw the vehicle, they all came running over to check it out. I must say, it was a very interesting vehicle for sure.

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[pmax]

[wdfifteen]

It’s ugly and it has a touch screen. Both hard NO for me.
You have to take your eyes off the road and poke around on the touch screen just to adjust the steering wheel? Are you f**king kidding me?

[masraum]

I passed a GWN Haval H6 on I10 the other day. Not the same thing, but I was surprised to see a Chinese car on our roads.

[masraum]

Reminds me of a cross between a Cadillac and Ferrari FF from this angle.

It's not the ugliest thing out there. Some angles aren't too bad. The rear is pretty bad.

[Steve Carlton]

What happens to parts availability and resale value if China invades Taiwan?

[oldE]

Surly they'll run out of ugly sticks after a while?

[stevej37]

At $25K....it'll sell fast.

[faverymi]

Cars will be treated like cell phones.

Crap out every 2 years. Upgrade to a new model.

Wouldn't be surprised that with this new players car ownership is over.

It will be a rental subscription lease type of thing. Who knows

[onewhippedpuppy]

CCP is currently dumping a glut of unsold EVs all over the world, in some cases selling new cars as new. Trying to tank the market and drive existing manufacturers out or bankrupt them. Thats the sort of thing you can do with slave labor and state ownership.

I could care less about this thing, but I’m not in the market for a Tesla either. Just another EV full of screens that looks like an ugly spaceship.

[GH85Carrera]

I can't imagine driving a car mad of Chinesium steel.

Have those ugly things passed the national crash standards? Where would one get them serviced?

I would not have one if it was offered to me free.

[Alan A]

as a second run about town car - for a dirt cheap lease (and by dirt cheap i mean $100 a month) - i'd consider it. NFW would i buy one.

i'm not a fan of electric cars, so china dumping loads is funny to me. just recycle the batteries into shavers or something.

[David]

I've ridden in a few different Chinese EV's and crawled over some high end ones in a Bangkok mall. Sure they're not Porsche's but they're hard to beat for the money and make it almost pointless for European, Japanese, or American manufacturers to try to compete. Unfortunately I predict it will soon be like cell phones were manufacturing in western countries will not be financially feasible.

[gacook]

Originally Posted by David

I've ridden in a few different Chinese EV's and crawled over some high end ones in a Bangkok mall. Sure they're not Porsche's but they're hard to beat for the money and make it almost pointless for European, Japanese, or American manufacturers to try to compete. Unfortunately I predict it will soon be like cell phones were manufacturing in western countries will not be financially feasible.

Only if we continue to allow them to do that to us.

[HobieMarty]

Originally Posted by faverymi

Cars will be treated like cell phones.



Crap out every 2 years. Upgrade to a new model.



Wouldn't be surprised that with this new players car ownership is over.



It will be a rental subscription lease type of thing. Who knows

I was thinking along the same lines, like a battery subscription.

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[David]

Originally Posted by gacook

Only if we continue to allow them to do that to us.

This is going to go PARF real fast: I don't know many born in the US folks up to the task. I run a machine shop, pay $50/hr and only about 25% of our work force is worth a crap. That doesn't bode well for finding enough people to operate an assembly line at a reasonable hourly rate with good attendance.

[gacook]

Originally Posted by David

This is going to go PARF real fast: I don't know many born in the US folks up to the task. I run a machine shop, pay $50/hr and only about 25% of our work force is worth a crap. That doesn't bode well for finding enough people to operate an assembly line at a reasonable hourly rate with good attendance.

I don't disagree with you. Not trying to PARF it at all...we need to relook how we educate people in this nation.

[Steve Carlton]

Originally Posted by gacook

Only if we continue to allow them to do that to us.

I’m curious what this means, and also how we educate people in this country.

[gacook]

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton

I’m curious what this means, and also how we educate people in this country.

Flood our markets with underpriced crap in order to run our business out of the market, which the People allow.

And educate our people in terms of actually getting them ready for a viable place in the workforce in a NEEDED field.

[pmax]

Originally Posted by David

This is going to go PARF real fast: I don't know many born in the US folks up to the task. I run a machine shop, pay $50/hr and only about 25% of our work force is worth a crap. That doesn't bode well for finding enough people to operate an assembly line at a reasonable hourly rate with good attendance.