can an EV be a sports car?

[herr_oberst]

^
That's the first car I thought of when I saw this thread.

[gregpark]

Holy crap, that car is insanely fast

[CA_WhaleTail]

DeMuro got a Taycan EV to test out.

Interesting comments-
big difference in handling versus all other EVs. Porsche did it well
briefly muses that a shifter would make it more fun
did like it a lot though doubt he'll give up his Carrera GT

https://youtu.be/D8xlkgHmC8k

https://www.supercars.net/blog/doug-demuro-reviews-the-2022-porsche-taycan-gts-sport-turismo/

so yes these can be insanely quick, and handle well.

lighter will be mo' better with next gen batteries
future is bright

today still pondering a tesla 3 performance with an aftermarket suspension.

[onewhippedpuppy]

I’m not sure a 5,000 lb electric sedan really checks my boxes for “sports car”.

[Vintage Racer]

Nope. They are too heavy and lack driving range at speed.

[CA_WhaleTail]

Tesla 3 performance is more like a sporty sedan appliance. not an engaging 'sporty' experience

weight of 4065# falls in between M3 and M5 (3840 and 5390#)
('long range', a bit over 300mi driven casually)

our Porsche flavors are:
Cayman 718: 3241#
carrera: 3316#
Taycan EV: 4630#
panamera: varies, over 5000# with batteries

going to need a future generation of light batteries

[Steve Carlton]

Solid-state batteries should move us significantly in the right direction.

[Vintage Racer]

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton

Solid-state batteries should move us significantly in the right direction.

What happens when you live in an area with few, if any, charging stations?

What happens when a car buyer likes the sound of a flat-six engine over the sound of an electric motor?

I drive with friends in the northern mountains. Many are PCA members. All of them have an ICE engine.

[Seahawk]

^^^ What a great map. Lot's of memories.

Originally Posted by Vintage Racer

What happens when a car buyer likes the sound of a flat-six engine over the sound of an electric motor?

There has got to be an app, right? I don't know, and I'll never own an all electric automobile...but there has to be a business opportunity in there somewhere.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Quite a few of the new EVs offer simulated ICE sounds. But it’s more than just a sound, is the feel through the wheel/seat/pedals, the real time interaction with the driver, the exhaust sound over your shoulder, the intake noise from up front (or back depending). It’s a lot of senses all giving you an experience that you can’t fake with a soundtrack through the speakers.

[GH85Carrera]

In 2023 I drove through far south California, along the border, over to Arizona and then New Mexico. My Garmin GPS normally shows potential stops ahead for food or gas. That side of the GPS was blank for a long time. I was real glad to have a 21 gallon tank of gas with a 500 mile range is needed. I can't imagine the anxiety of driving that route in an electric car. My 40 year ICE powered car loved the area.

[Steve Carlton]

[Vintage Racer]

We need to move away from favoring EV to a minor part.

I'd say that Porsche CEO Oliver Bloome will resign from his poor reactions to a failed policy. His last plan to kill the Cayman/Boxster ICE to all EV was just stupid. They should both be produced.

The sales market will define the winner while the elites fly around in their private jets.

[Kraftwerk]

Originally Posted by gregpark

Pretty soon you might have an electric sports car with a battery that weighs less than a tank of gas

...looking forward to that!

it will finally be a sporty-sports car,.. but until the Hp/ to weight ratio is figured out it can never be a 'sports car'
Some of the electric sedans on offer now, might be classified as 'Muscle-cars' for their insane torque , but not a sports cars

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by unclebilly

Not unless they make an electric miata… there, I said it.

Se deal as an electric 914. Transforms it into a non-sports car

[Vintage Racer]

A Porsche 914 with a flat-six in back is a fast car. They can weight 1800 lbs. in race trim.

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton

Solid-state batteries should move us significantly in the right direction.

Aug 14, 2025
MG4 makes history with first semi-solid-state battery in a mass-produced EV
https://www.drivencarguide.co.nz/news/mg4-makes-history-with-first-semi-solid-state-battery-in-a-mass-produced-ev/

[kach22i]

How about hybrid sports cars?

June 24, 2025
Lucy Promises Charlie Brown A Rotary-Powered Mazda RX-7 Successor Is Definitely 100% For Sure Coming This Time
https://www.jalopnik.com/1894327/next-gen-mazda-rx-7-successor-reportedly-almost-ready/

That means the production version of the Iconic SP won't replace the Miata in Mazda's lineup, and instead, we'll get two Mazda sports cars. "You can expect Iconic SP will be a good successor for RX-7," Mazda Chief Technical Officer Ryuichi Ume****a said. But while it will include a rotary engine, expect the production version to be a range-extended hybrid like the MX-30 E-Skyactiv R-EV that never made it to the U.S. Unlike the MX-30, though, the new RX-7 — or perhaps it will be called the RX-9 — will have a more powerful rotary engine that also meets emissions requirements.

26 Jun 2025
Mazda goes all in: a slew of SUVs and a new rotary-powered sports car
https://www.drivencarguide.co.nz/news/mazda-goes-all-in-a-slew-of-suvs-and-a-new-rotary-powered-sports-car/

Ume****a told MotorTrend the new sports car wouldn’t cannibalise MX-5 sales, but would complement it. Toyota has found success with a similar two-pronged sports car team with the GR86 and Supra................

Unlike previous RX models, the new version won’t use the rotary engine to drive the wheels but it will be used as a range-extender hybrid. In this set-up it is used purely as a generator to top up a battery that feeds electric motors.

This gives it petrol-car practicality with electric-car grunt and performance.

The patent confirmed the car’s overall styling would remain close to the Iconic SP concept with its Coke Bottle design, as will the slimline window runner mounted side mirrors.

[onewhippedpuppy]

I love the rotary, but not as a range extender. A heavy hybrid is really not a suitable RX model, it’s definitely not consistent with the history of those models.

[CA_WhaleTail]

Mazda's CX-50 hybrid uses Toyota's rav4 powertrain.

So MX-5 Miata gets the Prius?

maybe light enough with a solid state or aluminum Ion battery. gonna be tough to stuff batteires in such a small car.