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Question No thoughts on the crypto crash?

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Published October 11, 2025 10:49pm EDT
Crypto bloodbath wipes out billions, but signs of stabilization emerge

The crypto market was rocked by a dramatic plunge Saturday, marking one of the sharpest single-day drops in recent history and wiping out billions in value, one expert told FOX Business.

The sudden collapse followed the U.S. government’s announcement of new tariffs on Chinese tech imports, a move that rattled investors and triggered panic.

Joshua Duckett, director of investigations at a crypto forensic firm, said traders had been forced to liquidate positions, sending prices into free fall.

"Most people don’t invest more than they can lose, but in the crypto industry as a whole, in terms of leveraged trading, it’s in the billions," Duckett explained.

"The amounts that people have lost are varying. Some people lost hundreds, thousands, millions, the total in terms of liquidations extends into the billions."

Bitcoin, the largest cryptocurrency, fell below $110,000, while Ethereum and other major tokens lost more than 20% of their value within hours.

Traders who had borrowed heavily to bet on rising prices were caught off guard, triggering a wave of forced liquidations that accelerated the crash.

"The crypto market reacted in a more extreme way than the stock market because it’s 24/7." Duckett said. "You’ll see the stock market react in a bad way. The crypto market reacted in a more extreme way."

"There was a market downturn in terms of multiple cryptocurrencies that have dropped in value over the past 24 hours, primarily due to market news, as well as the effects of said news on people that are trading in the crypto markets," explained Duckett.
So... wadda you think?

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An OG whale shorted and dumped his wallet.
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https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/crypto-bloodbath-wipes-out-billions-signs-stabilization-emerge-says-expert

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Crypto is an interesting study in currency speculation. It is highly volatile by nature so I would not sweat a lot of movement due to irrational fear.

Things that do make me sweat:
* A lot of people are buying on heavy margin. 1929 anyone??
* Billions can disappear in a few keystrokes through theft, fraud and scams with no recourse.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Bankman-Fried
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Crypto went super illiquid for a short time, during which prices of some of the ***** coins (alt coins) dropped 70-90%, and since lots of crypto bros are levered, they were liquidated at the bottom. Something like $19BN of crypto was liquidated, lots of levered bros were wiped out. On the other hand, whoever was on the other side of those liquidation trades made huge returns. This all happened in minutes.

BTC and ETH were less volatile, but still moved like -30%.

More evidence, if any were needed, that crypto is not a “store of value” or “digital gold”. It’s just a very volatile speculative trading vehicle. Of course, crypto will be permitted in IRAs and 401ks soon, because connected people in the government make lots of money on crypto.
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An OG whale shorted and dumped his wallet.
This is a great story. The short was done from a trading account that was opened Friday morning and funded with a wire...
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No thoughts on crypto, but this style of writing is a waste of bandwidth.

"Bitcoin, the largest cryptocurrency, fell below $110,000, while Ethereum and other major tokens lost more than 20% of their value within hours. "

The author compares a finite amount to a percentage, what's the point of that? Is the author just too lazy to calculate the percentage change of Bitcoin?
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Crypto is volatile. What's to discuss?
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Crypto is volatile. What's to discuss?
Still struggling on how it has any value at all.

I mean, I understand the "proof of work done proves value" concept etc. but only when the work that gets done has any value to anyone.
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IDT an e-check has any value either, but banks that use ACH recognize them and other banks honor them. What's the difference? Supposedly banking is encrypted AFA electronic transactions go.

Wouldn't the ACH be stored on many servers? I'm sure y'all have an answer, it's just a rhetorical question.

BTW, when I first became aware of Bitcoin many years ago, I was working on a house the belonged to a finance guy and we were friends, so we gabbed a lot. The subject came up and he wasn't aware. I did my best to explain what I knew, the basics. He just said no way could he understand it and no way it would work. Lost track of him, wonder what he thinks now?
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Still struggling on how it has any value at all.

I mean, I understand the "proof of work done proves value" concept etc. but only when the work that gets done has any value to anyone.
Me too, but I’m pretty conservative when it comes to money. My simple mind can grasp investing in a company that has products, employees, real estate, etc. Investing in a vaporware currency backed by nothing is way outside of my comfort zone.
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That’s pretty much the US dollar ^^^
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That’s pretty much the US dollar ^^^
Ha. Although at least you don't lose your USD forever if you forget your passphrase or accidentally send it to a dead address. That's the one aspect of crypto that I think will scare off most people. Isn't something like 20-30% of all bitcoin supply gone forever? I'm very bearish on crypto. I'm sure I'm probably wrong too, but I will never put my $$ into it. I'm not a super conservative investor either, I've invested in a lot of complex assets, but I just can't get my head around the use case for crypto, beyond pure speculation, money laundering or engaging in illicit trade.
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Ha. Although at least you don't lose your USD forever if you forget your passphrase or accidentally send it to a dead address. That's the one aspect of crypto that I think will scare off most people. Isn't something like 20-30% of all bitcoin supply gone forever? I'm very bearish on crypto. I'm sure I'm probably wrong too, but I will never put my $$ into it. I'm not a super conservative investor either, I've invested in a lot of complex assets, but I just can't get my head around the use case for crypto, beyond pure speculation, money laundering or engaging in illicit trade.
Nah, LE just steals your physical cash using asset forfeiture laws, as all cash is a prerequisite to ill-gotten business.
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Still struggling on how it has any value at all.

I mean, I understand the "proof of work done proves value" concept etc. but only when the work that gets done has any value to anyone.
Crypto produces no cash flow, generates no product or service, employs no one, and in spite of the "mining story" it is only worth what the next guy will pay for it. It is pure currency speculation that has *so far* seen very favorable appreciation in the market long term. Will this continue?? Nobody really knows.

There have been a lot of big winners but also a lot of theft, fraud, and scams. It is the wild west, not unlike the Calif gold rush. They say that with rare exception, the big winners in 1849 were the guys selling the shovels and supplies, not the miners.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_gold_rush

Other forms of speculative assets that have faded: Tulips, Confederate currency.
Other forms of speculative assets currently on a run: Gold and silver.

Choose wisely.
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Crypto produces no cash flow, generates no product or service, employs no one, and in spite of the "mining story" it is only worth what the next guy will pay for it. It is pure currency speculation that has *so far* seen very favorable appreciation in the market long term. Will this continue?? Nobody really knows.

There have been a lot of big winners but also a lot of theft, fraud, and scams. It is the wild west, not unlike the Calif gold rush. They say that with rare exception, the big winners in 1849 were the guys selling the shovels and supplies, not the miners.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_gold_rush

Other forms of speculative assets that have faded: Tulips, Confederate currency.
Other forms of speculative assets currently on a run: Gold and silver.

Choose wisely.
Gold and Silver at least have uses besides speculation….they are on a tear because the dollar is tanking.
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Gold and Silver at least have uses besides speculation….they are on a tear because the dollar is tanking.
Indeed. The dollar was also tanking in the late 70s after the oil embargo when gold went from $200/oz to $900/oz in a short period. Then the dollar stabilized and gold went down to $400/oz and stayed flat for 30 years. This is the nature of currency speculation.

Will the dollar stabilize again or fade from existence? Nobody really knows.
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Crypto produces no cash flow, generates no product or service, employs no one, and in spite of the "mining story" it is only worth what the next guy will pay for it. It is pure currency speculation that has *so far* seen very favorable appreciation in the market long term. Will this continue?? Nobody really knows.

There have been a lot of big winners but also a lot of theft, fraud, and scams. It is the wild west, not unlike the Calif gold rush. They say that with rare exception, the big winners in 1849 were the guys selling the shovels and supplies, not the miners.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_gold_rush

Other forms of speculative assets that have faded: Tulips, Confederate currency.
Other forms of speculative assets currently on a run: Gold and silver.

Choose wisely.
Sooo... you're saying we should buy the dip?
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Sooo... you're saying we should buy the dip?
Feeling lucky? Crypto doesn't suit my investing style but if you personally like it, definitely buy low, sell high.
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The federal reserve has put out feelers for a digital currency years ago. With the history of bitcoin, this would be an easy transfer by the fed. Of course, with any purely centralized currency leads to abuse. I like Au, Ag, Pt, and Pb for when the others fail.

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