Most Evil Regime of All Time

Purrybonker · 01:36 PM

I was running through some statistics/trivia and I think I may have come up with the all-time winner for the evilest, ugliest regime of all. Saddam was a pussy compared to these guys:

Factoid:

No.1 They have the largest percentage of their population in jail, right now, than any other nation on earth (about three times more than their nearest competitor). About 3% of the citizens of this nation spend their time in jail with virtually no rights of any kind- let alone the right to vote for/against the government that put them/keeps them there.

No.2 They execute a large percentage of their population every year in criminal proceedings - more than just about any other nation on the planet. These guys bumped-off about five times more of their population than even good old Saddam was able to pull off during 2002. They have even been known to execute minors.

No.4 This nation has the dubious honor of holding the record for killing the most civilians in a single military action during war-time.

No.5 This nation possesses and spends more money producing wmd(s) every year, than every other nation on earth, combined.

No.6 This nation has the highest crime rate, highest violent crime rate and highest murder rate of any country on the planet.

How do we get a "coalition of the willing" to bomb these guys back into the stoneage before they become a threat to world peace?

Any ideas?

BTW- This thread only appears as a foil to that ridiculous thread seen here under the label "New Name Needed for the United Nations" - In case the authors and contributors to that piece of work fail to catch (very likely) that this missive is given "tongue firmly in cheek".

CamB · CamB's Garage

To be fair, the same country doesn't have much genocide...

I disbelieve #6 too. The others are, I believe, very true.

Purrybonker · 01:57 PM

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To be fair, the same country doesn't have much genocide...

...right you are, as long as it's not MUCH genocide, all is well then.

dd74 · 12-18-2003, 01:46 PM

I always thought the most evil regime of all time was the '77 to '79 Pittsburgh Steelers.

Moses · 12-18-2003, 01:49 PM

Canada?

Moses · 12-18-2003, 02:01 PM

How about this?

What nation

1) has citizens that give more to private charity than any other. And yes, that is per capita.

2) has a government that gives more money for international relief (famine, health care) than any other.

3) has twice helped save Europe from fascism.

4) remains the first choice haven for the political and economic refugees of the world.

5) The only nation in the history of the world to fight a war to liberate a minority population from slavery.

You guessed it. The USA. The fact is, we do more of everything here. Good, bad, and in between. Don't judge us too harshly.

350HP930 · 12-18-2003, 02:07 PM

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To be fair, the same country doesn't have much genocide...

I disbelieve #6 too. The others are, I believe, very true.

I think native americans and blacks would disagree on the genocide issue.

dd74 · 12-18-2003, 02:17 PM

Oh, I get it: this is another "I hate America" thread.

No wonder I'm an isolationist.

Moses · 12-18-2003, 02:17 PM

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I think native americans and blacks would disagree on the genocide issue.

Sadly, all indigenous peoples in America and most of the world have suffered the same fate. The Carib Indians are extinct! Most recently, the Nicaraguans have attempted to rid their nation of the local Mosqito Indian tribes. The fate of indigenous peoples is the same all over the world. Not just the US.

Genocide and the US African-American population? No evidence of that.

Purrybonker · 02:20 PM

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You guessed it. The USA. The fact is, we do more of everything here. Good, bad, and in between. Don't judge us too harshly.

..exactly. That was the "tongue in cheek" point of this thread. The US nor anyone else should be judged on the basis of a select or slanted group of criteria. Including the French.

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Oh, I get it: this is another "I hate America" thread

...no, it's a "stop ****ting on the French" thread.
Read the "BTW" at the end of the first posting.

350HP930 · 12-18-2003, 02:27 PM

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Genocide and the US African-American population? No evidence of that.

Do you mean no evidence that it happened or are you saying that since the black race was never exterminated it doesn't count?

The last time I checked one does not need to succeed at genocide to be guilty of it. There are still lots of jews in the world today but Hitler was still guilty of genocide.

Are you aware of what the average life expectancy of a black slave in the americas in the 18th and 19th century and how many were either worked to death or executed for not being obedient slaves?

Moses · 12-18-2003, 02:37 PM

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Are you aware of what the average life expectancy of a black slave in the americas in the 18th and 19th century and how many were either worked to death or executed for not being obedient slaves?

The average life expectancy of all Americans in 1780 was 36 years. Blacks fared even worse due to poor living conditions, crowding etc. This is a strong argument for neglect and abuse, not genocide.

dhoward · dhoward's Garage

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Are you aware of what the average life expectancy of a black slave in the americas in the 18th and 19th century and how many were either worked to death or executed for not being obedient slaves?

I hate these stupid "fact" spewing arguments.
What was the life expectancy of African tribesmen sold into slavery by their own leaders on the boat trip over here?

You watch too much TV.

dd74 · 12-18-2003, 02:44 PM

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...no, it's a "stop ****ting on the French" thread.
Read the "BTW" at the end of the first posting. [/B]

Oh, so it's a "I hate America, but my tongue's in my cheek to make it look like I don't hate America." thread.

Hmmm...sounds like a cop out to me.

rcecale · rcecale's Garage

You can complain about this country all you want, but the bottom line really boils down to this....if you hate it here that much, then get your sorry a$$ to some other country. One where you think you'll have it better. I would just love to see your face when you finally realize how wrong you were/are.

I'm not saying you don't have the right to complain, you certainly do....but then again, you people complain so much about so little that you sound like nothing more than a cranky 4 year old who is not getting their way and really just needs to have a little nap.

Enough already!!!!

Randy

CamB · CamB's Garage

You can complain about this country all you want, but the bottom line really boils down to this....if you hate it here that much, then get your sorry a$$ to some other country.

This does leave as an alternative the blindingly obvious "work to change it".

Plus, Purry is from Canada.

350HP930 · 03:19 PM

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I'm not saying you don't have the right to complain, you certainly do....but then again, you people complain so much about so little that you sound like nothing more than a cranky 4 year old who is not getting their way and really just needs to have a little nap.

Enough already!!!!

Randy

Pot, Kettle, Black . . .

Back on the subject of slavery though, the average slave would die after less than five years of labor (less than 2 in the more tropical plantations) which is the reason why millions were brought over in slave ships to keep up the supply.

Its a double standard to concider hitlers forced labor camps guilty of genocide when the forced labor and execution of black slaves far exceeds what the NAZIs did.

Moses · 12-18-2003, 03:29 PM

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Pot, Kettle, Black . . .

Back on the subject of slavery though, the average slave would die after less than five years of labor (less than 2 in the more tropical plantations) which is the reason why millions were brought over in slave ships to keep up the supply.

Gotta see a legitimate reference for that. Slaves were a very expensive commodity. The price of a mature slave was more than 5 times the yearly salary of a laborer. To lose such an investment after two years would be financial disaster. Only a small percentage of southerners held slaves. Slaves were owned by the wealthiest landowners.

350HP930 · 12-18-2003, 03:42 PM

Well, I know it doesn't mean much to some people but I took US and Latin American history in college due to my interest in it and my need to satisfy my humanity requirements.

Its been a while but I still remember the facts well. If you don't believe me I am sure you will find validation with a little internet search.

It would also be in line with the cost since the price would be about the same as it would cost to pay someone for those several years though you would be hard pressed to find someone to voluntarily do the kind of work slaves did.

We are talking about hard labor under harsh conditions that included malaria and parasitic disease.

While I am sure there were many house servants that could reach a ripe old age the supermajority of slaves were just disposable bodies doing the work that people did not want to do voluntarily.

Moses · 12-18-2003, 04:37 PM

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Its been a while but I still remember the facts well. If you don't believe me I am sure you will find validation with a little internet search.

Best I could come up with is a life expectancy for American born slaves of about 27 years. That is 2 year longer that the life expectancy of home African population. Apparently no Garden of Eden there either.

A life expectancy of 27 years is about 9 years less than the white US population at that time.

Today in America the life expectancy of blacks is 7 years less than whites.

PS. I'm embarassed to admit to 11 years of college. Most of the sociology and liberal arts curriculum was pure unfounded crap.